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Registry values to " ".

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  1. 2003/09/20
    mattman

    mattman Inactive Alumni Thread Starter

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    If I want to cripple some internet junk that is not picked up by Spybot, can I set it's registry values to " ", deleting what is currently listed in the quotes or could this cause the same problems as deleting the wrong keys.

    Thanks
    Matt
     
  2. 2003/09/21
    mattman

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    Update

    I have found further information on the "malware" and now have a list of registry enteries that can be deleted.
    Apparently Spybot and Adaware now have it in their new removal listings.

    If you would still like to comment about setting values to " ", I would appreciate the input.

    Matt
     

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  4. 2003/09/21
    markp62

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    That would be hard to say. It really would depend on which Key, type of Value, and what the Value Data is.
     
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    gammaepsilon

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    There may be only one way to find out - delete.

    However, stick to this protocol.

    Export.
    Delete.
    Import if a problem.
     
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    mflynn

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    Most always it will cause problems when this item is accessed!

    The proper way to do this is:

    1. Export this entry and give it a descriptive name.
    2. Then remove the entry.

    Trouble, then import it back!

    Mike
     
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    gammaepsilon

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    My speakers must be playing up - I'm hearing an echo.
     
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    mflynn

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    Lol!

    Sorry Gamma

    Read only the top line "way to find out - delete "! My fault, sorry!

    Speakers must be OK!

    Mike
     
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    BillyBob Lifetime Subscription

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    In 98 there is another way to do this.

    1-- check that Windows has made a RB00x.cab file at the first boot for the day.

    2-- Edit the registry.

    3-- If problems develope boot to the Command Prompt at boot up and type SCANREG /RESTORE And use the latest RB00x.cab file to restore.

    I believe this is a better way. I say this because when we edit a key in the reg it does ( or at least may ) effect other keys. Doing and import my not fix all.

    The scanreg /restore is much safer.

    NOTE:

    The X in the RB00x.cab = a number from 0 to 5.

    BillyBob
     
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    BillyBob Lifetime Subscription

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    The RB00x.cab files are located in the
    C:\windows\Sysbckup folder

    BB
     
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    gammaepsilon

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    Mine are in e:\sysbckup.

    The nn in the rb0nn.cab = a number from 00 to 99.
     
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    BillyBob Lifetime Subscription

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    You have other than a default install.

    I have to write things as refering to standard Windows Default setup.

    And the default is as I wrote.

    If the user has made changes then said user will need to work accordingly.

    BillyBob
     
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    gammaepsilon

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    Of course, so use the term 'default location' as opposed to 'are'.
     
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    Christer

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    gammaepsilon,

    I´m not the brightest guy on the forum but I know that this is Your location of Your choise and NOT the default location by the Windows installer.

    I don´t have Windows 98 but if BillyBob says this is the default location, then it´s good enough for me. It is in the default system folder, at least.

    If You think that this was the point ...... :confused: ...... then You´ve totally missed it!

    Regards,
    Christer ...... ;) ......
     
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    gammaepsilon

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    Christer

    I'm afraid that you have missed the point.

    The statement: 'The RB00x.cab files are located in the C:\windows\Sysbckup folder' may or may not be true.

    The statement : 'The default location for the rb00x.cab files is C:\windows\Sysbckup' is true.

    It follows from the second statement that the location may be edited in some way and provides the shortest way of advising such. If the location is not editable then we should drop the word 'default' from the second statement. In this case the first statement becomes true.

    The point that I am making is that we shouldn't use the word 'are' for anything which may be edited; as indicated in my last post and cited by your goodself.

    I don't think that I am being pedantic. We keep the door open by using 'default', for anything which may be edited, for folk to question the merit of editing; if any. If we don't use 'default' when we can, and therefore should, then the door will be closed.
     
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    Christer

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    gammaepsilon,

    That´s possible and as I said, I´m not the brightest and I call it as I read and understand it ...... ;) ...... english not being my maternal language.

    I believe that this is true in at least 99% of all Win98 systems. Most people don´t even know that these cab-files exist and even fewer have an urge to move them to a different than the default location.

    From Your previous post:

    Had You elaborated on that, maybe a mention of BillyBobs location as the default which can be altered by the user and You have altered Yours to what You said, would have made it clearer.

    By rephrasing said post to read something like the above quote would have made it clearer. Now I see what You mean and I agree!

    Regards,
    Christer
     
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    gammaepsilon

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    Christer

    Yeah, and very close to 100% I should think but I was involved in true/false statements and not statistics.

    You critisice my not elaborating. It's very easy not to when focusing on a recipient who is not a newbie but, of course, he/she will probably not be the only reader.

    Oh boy, have you made a good point. I'll be more careful in future. It's something that we should all remember.

    If I catch you forgetting I shall remind you of you own advice. :D

    Cheers,
    gamma
     
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    BillyBob Lifetime Subscription

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    Well if you want to go that far why don't you pick on

    C:\Windows\Sysbckup ? C:\Windows may not even be the correct.

    And make it Whatever location and folder you installed Windows in/ Sysbckup ( unless you have moved either )

    What a scary thought to be a first line of a reply to a very touchy situation of editing the registry.

    I believe what really should be said is;

    " Before you start any editing of the regisrtry check to make sure they have been made and where the backups ( RB00x.CAB ) files are and know how to restore them if needed . The normal windows default location is C:\Windows\Sysbckup folder unless you have made changes. "

    When dealing with problems the way we do here I believe it is the better thing to do is start out with the default Windows Install locations. And if need be take it from there.

    If the user has the knowledge to install Windows to a location other than the default then said user should also know that things may be stored in a different location.

    gammaepsilon

    This is a question and nothing else.

    You say your backup files are in E:\Sysbckup.

    Does scanreg /restore from the Command Prompt at bootup or a Floppy boot still find them ?

    I have had both yes & no answers to this.

    BillyBob
     
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    gammaepsilon

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    I see that you have taken my advice then but 'normal' is repetitive - normal/default ?

    Since scanreg parses scanreg.ini then the answer is yes provided, of course, scanreg.ini exists otherwise the default location obtains. It follows if the default location is to be used then the 'BackupDirectory=' entry is not required.

    I don't want to muddy the waters here but I have more than one scanreg.ini with differing backup locations. I can make a quick desktop backup to the alternate backup folder and hopefully not require it. By employing this saftey precaution but implementing an alternate folder I avoid disturbing the primary backup folder. I have a batch file which toggles twix scanreg.ini and scanreg.alt . Have I ever forgotten to toggle back? Several times, but I have a routine in autoexec.bat which pulls my leg if I forget.
     
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    BillyBob Lifetime Subscription

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    Heck no.

    But I guess by being Human I do make mistakes. So I just rewrote it the way I should have in the first place.

    So I guess I will just need to be more carefull in the future so that I do not make mistakes.

    BillyBob
     
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    gammaepsilon

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    Right on there, BillyBob. :D

    and post the occasional smilie whilst you're at it. :)
     
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