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Registry Checker??

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  1. 2003/08/11
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    BillyBob: My experience was real simple:

    I entered "sfc /scanonce ",

    Clicked run.

    Got message, "Insert installation CD "

    Put XP Home CD in CD Drive. (pre service pack 1)

    Clicked "OK" No options presented for what I wanted SFC to do.

    Lots of HD activity.

    Machine re-booted itself.

    Checked "Add Remove Programs "

    All updates GONE. (they had been current)

    Went to Windows Update Site. Scanned for updates.

    Message: "No updates available for your computer "

    Went to Update History.

    Saw all previously installed updates along with message: The updates may not still be installed on your machine. (not a quote)

    Searched for link for re-download of same updates. Seach yielded no link or option to re-install.

    Searched XP Download site, found 76 updates, some not for XP Home. Updates not listed in any intelligble order that I could discern. Too confusing for me to try and download and install using that site.

    Did "upgrade" re-install of XP Home.

    Had to do registry hack to get PPOe DSL to work and connect to internet. (see Q329441, got hack from ISP)

    Went to Windows update site: 33 updates for XP Home (including SP1) available for download.

    Downloaded and installed all.

    SFC will not ever be run on this machine never, never, never again.

    I confirm your statement: "It Stinks "
     
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    Thanks for the info regarding SFC application and its problems. There may never be a need to run SFC manually!

    As I stated in my first response, it has been my understanding since ME, the file protection feature in ME and XP eliminates the need to manually run any file correcting routines that relates to and corrects file integrity.

    The WFP feature runs continuously in the background and should prevent overwriting of current files with inappropriate files and and other problems that may corrupt a file.

    The lack of visibility to what file is/was or has been corrected is my concern as slight a that may be.

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    BBob,

    To avoid trany complications and confusion and have complete control to have the machine do what you want, when you want, and avoid doing what GM wants you to do, stay with your stick.

    I have to tell you, if an indicator lights, it is very expensive to run the car on diagnostics. Recently, I had an engine check light stay on. GM wanted $50.00 just to turn off the light. The problem was air got into the gas tank and caused a false positive and GM wouldn't cover with the warranty. I pulled a cable to the battery and it cleared the register and the indicator is normal. Stay with your stick the alternative is expensive!
     
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    HAHAHAHA !!

    That stupid things has a NASTY habit of replacing file that do not need replacing. In SE it is USERS choice, And I made a bad one or two.

    In ME it is ( as far as I know ) automaitic which in my book S***S.

    The only dam time a file may need replacing is if there is an actiall Operating problem with it. Otherwise leave that dma things alone.

    I can almost 100% gaurreentee you thai if I ran SFC in XP right now I would be OUT OF business.

    Gotta go get some tests. be back Later.

    BillyBob
     
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    martinr121,
    I quote from Your post:
    Do You mean that You used the on-line Windows Update or the corporate download to HDD and installed from there?
    If the latter is the case, how did You decide in which order?

    The reason I ask is that I download the updates to HDD and install from there but also to have and keep for future use.
    I have checked the file dates and signature dates and if necessary plan to install them in that order.
    Would that be correct?

    That will be if I decide to reinstall WinXpPro.
    If I get into trouble it seems to be too complicated for me to sort out so, I´ll probably thank myself for purchasing Ghost and use my latest Image to restore.

    As a matter of fact, I´ve disabled System Restore completely and rely on Ghost instead. I feel that with my level of knowledge and experience it would be safer and quicker even if it involves reinstalling the latest applications (post latest Image).

    Regards,
    Christer
     
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  6. 2003/08/13
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    Hey Christer: You must have skipped this part of my post:


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    Searched XP Download site, found 76 updates, some not for XP Home. Updates not listed in any intelligble order that I could discern. Too confusing for me to try and download and install using that site. __________________________________________________

    I guess that was what you call the corporate update site where all the downloads are and you can download for later install.

    What really made it hard was you could only see like 1 1/2 updates at a time and not in date order. They show up in a little window just like the regular update site.

    I guess if you took the time to sort them out by date and read each one to see which OS (XP Home, XP Pro, XP Media Edition) they applied to, you could go that route. That is, download for future installation.

    For me it was just easier to re-install using upgrade on CD while Windows XP Home was running, saves all files and settings then I clicked the windows update and let XP pick it's own updates.


    But, I do know now, it was really a great waste of time. like I said, it didn't fix the problem I was having and created another one that took a registry hack to fix.

    And you're right, you need a way to back up other than system restore, if your machine won't boot, system restore is useless, no way to run it. Me, I'm running two separate back up utilities, back up to a separate dedicated hard drive and to DVD. I have had a number of crashes in XP including a hard drive failure, I learned the hard way.
     
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    martinr121,
    to be honest I didn´t skip it. The thread is so long that I had time enough to let it slip off of my teflon memory ...... :eek: ...... I remember when You remind me.

    I´m not sure that we talk about the same update site though. On the "corporate" site you can choose which OS and select to a download basket. Did You use this link to the Windows Update Catalog?

    http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp?corporate=true

    The updates seem to be littered around and no discernible install order or even release order.
    I have sorted them according to file date and / or signature date and will, if needed, reinstall them in ascending order of date. However, I still don´t know if that would be correct.

    It´s an academic question since I´m obviously too stupid to pull it off and will benefit from the services of Ghost instead ...... :cool: ......

    Christer
     
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    Hey Christer: Seems we enjoy the same level of mental acumen...

    As a matter of fact, I used to think I was relatively intelligent, then I bought a computer. Seems that there is nothing like a Windows operating system to teach humility.

    I must have been at a different site than your link, but I came to the same conclusion as you did regarding my ability to sort out the updates and install them in the proper order (if there is such a thing.)

    Besides, I just could'nt think of a good reason to store them all on my machine when they are available at the click of a mouse.

    Hopefully, I'll never again have to do a format re-install with all the backups I keep, but if so, the updates are readily available, and with DSL, the download times are just not that long.
     
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    The reason I download and install from the HardDisk is that I was told it was the preferrable way. When off-line, AntiVirus and Firewall software can safely be disabled which reduce the probability of something going wrong.

    When installing WinXP there were SP1 plus ump-teen updates to handle and I drew the same conclusion as You did, let Windows Update handle it.
    I downloaded the updates to keep as well and since the time the installation was up and running, I download the updates and install from the HardDisk.
    (I can handle one or two at a time!)

    Now I´m beginning to wonder what possible future use there might be for my "update library "?
    My initial thought was that the next time I reinstall I can stay off-line as long as possible to be vulnerable to malicious code the shortest time possible before installing AntiVirus and Firewall software which always are the final things to go onto my computer.
    But my guess ist that SP2 will be there long before and I´ll scrap everything except SP1.

    I´m also wondering if I´m taking precautionary measures for something that one in a million has experienced (Windows OnLine Update going wrong)?

    Christer
     
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    Hopefully, if Microsoft Update site goes down, they can fix it, if not, we are all in a world of trouble.

    Trusting Microsoft may require a leap of faith. By the way, how far off is "Longhorn "? I just can't wait to spend some more money.:rolleyes:
     
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