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    WinXP Home, SP2.

    I have installed on my system Firefox 1.0.4, netscape 4.9, and mozilla 1.0.8
    They were installed in the order shown above.

    Mozilla keeps wanting to use netscape for creating a profile but there is
    already a profile there, actually there are 2 now, "savagcl and savagcl-1 ".
    savagcl was the first one there. In Firefox there is a profile "default" which is
    working well.

    Can i let mozilla create a (new) profile and then delete the other two?
    Is there a way to have mozilla use the information from firefox to create a
    profile (i understand it wont all be there i.e., mail).

    thanks,
     
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    If the installations are as I changed them(bold characters plus question marks), I have no idea what you mean on with Mozilla, since the three programs are independent, if I understand correctly what you have.
    However, you have to tell us the correct versions, of Netscape and Mozilla, nor I understand the question about the profiles. You should not have to create a new profile, but there may be more there which you did not say.
     
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    Westside,

    sorry about the confusion (so am i).
    Versions:
    firefox = 1.0.4
    netscape = 4.79
    mozilla = 1.7.8

    I just re-installed mozilla, got the splash screen then the profile manager
    came up and it had 1 profile (savagcl) i told it to use that one. Response was
    "Mozilla cannot use the profile savagcl because the directory containing the
    profile cannot be found ".

    So, i created a new profile (savagcl1). Then i set minimal preferences and
    closed mozilla.
    Then i re-started mozilla, got the same profile manager window and the only
    profile there was back to savagcl. The profile just created in mozilla wasnt
    there and i was ask to select a profile to use (savagcl) or create another.

    Like its not seeing the new profile and looping back to a profile that was
    deleted, but it cannot find it. very strange......

    This is kinda confusing, hope it makes sense.

    thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    What you say makes sense, but what's happening does "t.
    I just want to make sure that you don't mix up mail accounts with profiles.
    Can you find the profile on your HD?This is from Ramona's solutions
    Typically, the profile manager comes up after the splash screen, and you create a new profile from Manage Profiles. But, usually, most people have only one Profiles in the profile location, which is "default ". So, did you create separate profiles even before the computer opened, and the profiles were given names like savagcl and savagcl1. If that is the cases you should have three profiles in the default location, i.e. Application Data|Mozilla|Profiles.
    What do you have?
     
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    Profiles are:
    Application Data\mozilla\profiles = savagcl (7.91MB) default user (1.50MB)
    savagcl1 (1.41MB)

    Application Data\mozilla\firefox\profiles = geu9o7c9.default (7.28MB)

    Program Files\netscape\users\savagcl (8.55MB).

    I have no problem with removing all 3 browsers and re-installing
    them. Maybe in a different order (mozilla, firefox, then netscape last).
    Then mozilla wouldnt (shouldnt) fine a netscape profile at all.

    thoughts?
    savagcl
     
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    Interesting -
    I decided to remove mozilla and netscape and re-install them.

    Mozilla removed ok but when i tried to remove netscape this is what i got -

    System\CurrentControlSet\VirtualDeviceDrivers.
    Virtual Device Driver format in the registery is invalid.
    Choose close to terminate.

    think this could have something to do with the problem?
    Of course, i have no idea about how to fix the virtual device problem. Will ask
    in the XP forum....

    thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    Please, stop with the uninstall/reinstall. I have no idea what you did, nor I understand that line about Mozillla wanting to use Netscape to create a profile.
    It appears that you have the correct profile, i.e. savagcl, but the communication to it from mozilla are broken, and you can uninstall/reinstall till doomsday, and it won't help. The path to the Mozilla.exe should be: C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\Mozilla\mozilla.exe (after uninstalling it). If you can modify the Target line (right click on your Mozilla shortcut|properties), and type in -p, like
    C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\Mozilla\mozilla.exe -p (have a keyboard space after the .exe). This should bring up the profile manager. If savagcl is not listed, it should work by clicking on Manage Profiles|Create profiles and call it the same name as before. You may be told that the name already exists, so try to extend the Target line, and type in savgcl, so that the entire Target line is:C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\Mozilla\mozilla.exe -p savagcl (keyboard space after p).
    This should direct the program to open that specific profile.
    Make sure that Quick Launch is turned off, and most important that you don't have some NS6/7.x.
    I have no idea about you NS4.79 uninstall problem
     
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    Westside,

    I have it (mostly) fixed. Still not sure why it did those things but---

    I uninstalled both mozilla and netscape then deep cleaned the registry with
    reg supreme. Then a search and destroy run through the registry for netscape
    and mozilla. Dont know, guess some wires got crossed somewhere.

    Re-installed mozilla and its working perfectly (so is firefox which was not a
    problem). Later i'll reinstall netscape. Since profiles are already made for both
    firefox and mozilla there should be no attempt for mozilla to create a profile....
    Netscape i only use it for music newsgroups anyway.

    Hey, thanks for the help tho.
    savagcl

    Funny how just writing down a problem (to a forum) will make a light-bulb
    go off over your head... :)
     
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    Hi savagcl

    Could you access music newsgroups with Mozilla 1.7.8 mail program?
     
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    You should be able to access music newsgroup with Mozilla1.7.8.
    Don't try to use the same profile for both Mozilla and Netscape.
     
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    Westside,

    Will mozilla 1.7.8 handle multi-part files (how)? Thats the only reason i'm
    keeping netscape. You've noticed it an older version of netscape.

    thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    clif,

    Give us an example of the multi type files you're concerned with.

    Thanks!

    Ramona
     
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    It is hard to tell. There are still websites which are developed in Microsoft software, which is understood by IE, but not by Netscape, Mozilla, and similar programs. One example is the otherwise excellent KTBG-FM station. They offer two links for Broadband, which I have, one for dialup, and a separate for Netscape and similar products.
    The broadband files are .wax, a WMP format, but right clicking on the shortcut brings up the code, which says that the file was supposed to be .asx, they dfiles are similar, and IE send the info to WMP, which will open, and play.
    Netscape and friends see .asx, and say that it can't be found. The page which is especially for Netscape is even worse. I can't see a format, but it tries, opening WMP, but freezing the browser.
    And, things can get worse if one has an embedded player.
    But, it is possible to get things done. The absolute minimum is to have the npdspay.dll file in the program plugins folder.
     
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    Hi Ramona,
    Hope your doing well today.

    Well, they are the yENC files (no RAR files). when i pull them, i just select
    all i need (4 0r 5 up to maybe 16 parts depending on compression) and tell
    Netscape to save them as a .uue file. More than that i dont know. When its
    done, i run that saved file (1 file) against the uue program and it puts then
    togeather for me as an mp3 or wav, etc and its ready to play.

    Thanks for replying,
    savagcl
     
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    I had no problem subscribing to the Newsgroup in either Mozilla 1.7.8, or Thunderbird 1.0.5. I see now to what you refer, by saving all the parts and then doing whatever it is you do. This is all completely new to me, and I don't know anything about converting a uue file to MP3, so you're leaps and bounds ahead of me...

    Ramona
     
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    Ramona,

    That'll be the day! Not sure if anyone can get ahead of you on these two
    subjects.

    Finally got both firefox and mozilla functioning like they are supposed to,
    hopefully, time will tell.

    Ah! but wait, a dark cloud on the horizon - when i tried to install netscape,
    i got an error msg like:
    "System\CurrentControlSet\VirtualDeviceDrivers, Virtual device driver format
    in the registry is invalid. Choose close to terminate. "

    I think this one would fit better in the XP forum. Has nothing to do with
    netscape but this is the only program (install) it happens for.

    Thanks for your feedback, Ramona,

    confused as usual,
    savagcl
     
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    I guess I lost the message once again (never go anywhere without copying the text!).
    Before I forget, my Registry has two keys with System\CurrentControlSet\VirtualDeviceDrivers, except that one has CurrentControlSet0001(take or leave a few zeros.
    Secondly, my Stuffit for Windows can handle .uue files. I did not understand if you were able to anything else, or just let the Usenet do its thing.
    And, finally try to set up Moz1.7.8. I find it hard to believe that NS4.x is needed
    But, I am afraid that there is some other problem.
     
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    Westside,

    There is a (joiner) program that is specifically for yENC type files. These uue
    files are widely used on the newsgroups for multi-part files.

    "UUD32inst.exe" and "UUD32setup.exe ", both work well for joining files. One of
    the options is called desperate mode (or like that) it should be checked.
    Very easy to use. Since netscape pulls multi-part files, i just select the ones
    i want and save them with an extension of uue or uud both work. Then just
    drop that file onto the icon for uue files. Works very fast.

    I got netscape loaded. Just told that message to ignore. It installed just fine.

    Oh, I ran RegSweeper and it found over 140 errors of different types. All of
    which was missing files or like that. Guess no harm done since i was able to
    boot-up after.

    Will look at Moz 1.7.8 soon.

    thanks,
    savagcl
     
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