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Preparing for Windows 11

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Barry, 2021/08/17.

  1. 2021/08/17
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I have to switch my computer to UEFI and enable secure boot in order for my computer to be compatible with Windows 11. I have found these instructions online, and I just want to make sure none of these instructions will create problems with my computer before I actually make those changes. Feedback from you will be appreciated.


    1. Enable TPM – Enter BIOS -> Select Peripheral -> AMD CPU FTPM

    2. Check the disk partition style Get-Disk

    3. If MBR convert it into GPT Settings -> update and security -> Recovery -> Troubleshoot -> Advanced -> Command Prompt -> Enter Credential of admin account

    4. Change the Boot into UEFI mode Enter BIOS -> Select BIOS tab -> Boot option to UEFI mode

    5. Disable CSM Enter BIOS -> Select BIOS tab -> Disable CSM

    6. Open secure boot

    7. Change from custom to standard

    8. ENABLE SECURE BOOT
     
  2. 2021/08/17
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    FWIW I wouldn't worry about making any changes just yet.
    Motherboard manufacturers are producing info to advise users which Model board is suitable for TPM setup.
    MS advised manufacturers prior to 2016 that this may ensue.
    Boards produced after that date should be able to run W11.
    I've seen dedicated instructions produced by some board manufacturers but it's early days yet and no need to panic.

    I did Post earlier about my dedicated "Insider" comp was updated to W11 even though the board was produced about 2014!!:eek:
    This "Insider" comp works OK with W11 but may not when the general release is made next year.
    Not worth worrying about at the moment.;)
     

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  4. 2021/08/17
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    OK, I'll put it on hold.
     
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    Following this discussion. My (3) desktop computers are what I call "franken-computers." I'll be curious to see what I have to do to end up with at least one that will run W11.

    My laptop is a 2012 unit. I don't see it making the transition in any scenario.
     
  6. 2021/10/08
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    In checking with Gigabyte, I was informed my 2009 GA-790XTA-UD4 motherboard won't work with Windows 11. I'll just continue with Windows 10 until I have a reason to build a new computer. I'm not one to be quick to replace something that is working fine.
     
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    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    We have until 2025 to decide what to do.
    MS has advised all Processor (Chips) and Motherboards Manufacturers since 2016 of the intention to add 2.0 TPM security in W11.
    There are lists available from Intel and AMD on their relevant CPU's that are up to date with these new security requirements.
    Likewise Motherboards should be up to speed with the new needs and you can check to see if M/B (later than 2016) is suitable.
    I currently have an X570 M/B which was re-manufactured and won't pass the MS test as it was first used with a different CPU, so I'm waiting to get the info from Gigabyte on how to rectify the problem.
     
  8. 2021/10/09
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Since I plan on retiring in 2023, I should have plenty of time to build a new computer in 2025. This mobo has been very stable, so I'm hoping for the same again... something to last till the end of time. I won't need the latest and greatest. Stability is number one for me.
     
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    virginia Lifetime Subscription

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    Bought 2 very similar PowerSpec (Micro Center) computers in 2017. Ran the W11 readiness check and mine failed - Processor cited as the reason for failure.
    Wife - Intel Core i7-8700KCPU@3.70 GHz Passed
    Mine - Intel Core i7-7700KCPU@4.20GHz Failed
    Go figure. I guess that means I get a new computer and the wife doesn't.
     
  10. 2021/10/09
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    I think anything below 8th Generation Intel CPU will be unable to comply.
    Check the Intel list Robert.
    This HP Notebook is Intel 8th. gen as the message in > Settings > Update and Security > says it is approved for W11.
    I purchased it in 2019.

    Welcome in advance Barry.

    I splashed out about 5 months back and built what I think "might be" my last comp.
    The X570 Gigabyte M/B was $368.00 NZD (Re-man) and other hardware averaged about $400.00 each with the big spend on RAM.
    The note in my Post #6 re the Security has stemmed from me buying a re-manufactured unit.
    All interesting as I didn't realize that the CPU installed originally could prevent W11 acceptance.
    As I said, I have time to await a reply from Gigabyte or the Reseller.
    The problem fault says the fTPM/PSP NV structure changed. o_O:eek:
     
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    jshm22

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    Don't bother. Early indications are that Windows 11 will need to seriously scale down if it wants to avoid the Windows 8 to Windows 10 disaster mark II

    If you have a W11 test "passing" machine, great. Else, don't be shelling out to make something for it just yet.
     
  12. 2021/10/09
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I'll avoid re-man parts when I build mine. I've never spent more than $1000 when I've built computers in the past, and I'll probably stick to that limit. It doesn't even make sense to research now, as who knows what will be available by then. All I'll probably need will be the mobo, CPU, CPU cooler (if I can't attach my present one), GPU and RAM. I hope to use the same case, case fans, HDD, SSD and DVD burner. Whatever isn't compatible with Win11 and the new system will need to be replaced, also.

    Congratulations on retirement. I'm ready now, also, but I'd like to build up a little extra savings buffer before I shut down my office. The memory is already going, so I don't see myself lasting in the workplace past 73.
     
  13. 2021/10/10
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    I have no concerns with the re-manufactured Gigabyte Motherboard.It has a warranty and I won't be using the full capabilities of the board.
    I wanted a board with a newer type of chip (X570) and USB C connections and NVM.2 and DDR4.
    The case I got is real quiet and there is no provision for DVD players!
    I had to use my previous comp to send the M/B drivers to a USB flash drive. The C type USB connectors are for the cell phone which now uses that Standard.

    I think the previous user of the board may have installed a different CPU and the Security Code algorithm has probably been encrypted for that CPU.
    There will be a process to follow to get it set again.

    These days all our music is put on USB drives or MicroSD cards and you just plug them into the Multimedia player in the car. No cassettes or DVD/CD's to worry about. If your media is on your cell phone, you connect to your USB A or C connector or Bluetooth.
    The same with the comp. New laptops don't have CD/DVD ROMS.

    You will have a host of problems deciding what to get for your new build Barry
    No support for older OS's and new Security requirements to operate the new OS with full support.
    It's a minefield out there these days.:eek:o_O;)
     
  14. 2021/10/10
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I've always used USB-C to USB-A. What are the advantages of using USB-C to USB-C? There are still many needs for USB-A... like flash drives, external drives and other chargeable products.

    If there's no connection for DVD/CD ROMs, I guess I won't be able to plug in my old floppy, either... not that I've used that since Windows XP. I still have some work backups on CD, but after I retire I guess that will be irrelevant. With no support for older OS's, does that mean I can't have a Win10 backup drive? I've always liked having something to fall back on... just in case.

    Out of curiosity, what case did you go with? We went with a Thermaltake Versa H34 for my son's computer, and that is also very quiet.
     
  15. 2021/10/10
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    This is the link to my local supplier of the case. The video shows how it looks internally etc.
    Buy the Be Quiet Pure Base 500 Black Mid Tower Case CPU Cooler Supports Upto... ( BG034 ) online - PBTech.co.nz

    Yes you can use adapters from USB A to C but I wanted things to look "clean".
    I have a dedicated USB C Data cable to connect my Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Lite to the comp.
    Backups by USB 3 to external Orico M.2 SSD enclosures with 1TB cap are compact and easily stored and portable.
    I have a portable USB powered DVD/CD player if I need to play any discs. ;)
     
  16. 2021/10/10
    Barry

    Barry Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I'm sure there will be something better by the time I get around to building a computer, but I sense my son's case was easier to work with... though it's no longer sold. Everything was modular, no tools were necessary, and cable management was very easy. Here is what it looked like: [​IMG] Versa H34.jpg - Shared with pCloud[​IMG]

    This is a review I read about your case: "The case lives up to its name and is very easy to work with. There is ample space (but no front drive bays) and the modularity is great for easy of installation. It does take a bit of trial and error to get all the cabling to work correctly, and it would be nice if it were more toolless; as it is you will be screwing quite a bit. You may need a third SATA power cable depending on how you arrange your drives, as there are 3 distinct areas for drives that are separated a bit. The biggest concern is CPU power: because of the PSU shroud, you cannot run the cable around the front if it has trouble reaching or bending, so an extension may be necessary."

    Other than my cellphone, I don't have anything that is USB-C, but who knows in the future. It's nice your mobo has USB-C in addition to rather than instead of USB-3. It's always interesting to see all the technology advances.
     
  17. 2021/10/16
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Further to my Post #12. I removed the CMOS battery for a few minutes then reinstalled it and my Graphics card (sits right on top of the battery).
    Start comp again and it opened in BIOS where I loaded Optimum Defaults and I have since been able to set up TPM as required.
    Now to see if W11 likes me again.
     
  18. 2021/10/17
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Latest news on my comp. TPM wouldn't stay enabled.:mad:o_O
    Googling found the answer.:D I had to convert my MBR disc to GPT.:eek::)
    After using AOMEI Partition Assistant Pro, everything works OK and I'm ready for W11.
     
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    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Sorry Barry, I didn't answer your question in your Post #13.
    As I understand this --- it's the old story of speed. USB C is faster than USB A --- USB A connector will govern the speed of data transfer.

    This 2019 HP Notebook is running W 11 Home and I haven't had any probs yet. ;)
     

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