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Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by Flossie, 2003/03/25.

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  1. 2003/03/25
    Flossie

    Flossie Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi all,
    I'm having problems with my PC Overheating. I have a AMD Athlon 1800 XP 256 RAM,DVD Drive,CD Rewriter.

    I've added two extra Fans to the front of the tower along with the one at the back and the one over the CPU but the system still appears to keep crashing,which I believe is due to it Over heating. I've got to the stage where I've had to take off one of the towers side panels to make sure that enough air is getting in.

    Is there anything I can do to reduce the heat without having to open up the tower.

    Hope Someone can help.

    Peter Stephen:confused:
     
  2. 2003/03/25
    Bmoore1129

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    Could it be that you need some heatsink compound between the Processor and the heat sink?

    Could it be the airflow is partially blocked by flat cables?

    How about fans mounted backwards. You should get fresh air in the front and out the back.
     

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    jsdkr

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    Also be sure that your fans are moving air , some of these new quiet fans are not moving any air at all . I had an overheat problem in a big case with two fans working , where if I removed the side it cooled right down . Come to find out the fans were not moving any air . Talked to the dealer about , asked why my old noisy computers fans could be felt , Where as my new quiet ones could not . Said he could give me a fan that blows more air but it would be noisy . Problem solved .
    Good luck





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    Yes. That is something to check on.

    But, I thought that I was the only one that did that.

    BillyBob
     
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    bobmc32

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    Flossie - Don't know your situation but my computers environment includes two shaggy Golden Retriever dogs and I have to "house clean" the insides periodically including blowing out the heatsink with canned compressed air to get out sucked in dust and dog hair. It makes a difference.
     
  7. 2003/03/26
    Flossie

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    I've turned the Fan at the back of the PC arround so that it Exhausts air out the back and also pulls air forward from the two fans at the front. I've also moved some of my components arround (Hard Drive ,CDR and DVD) so that air circulates arround them better and this seems to have fixed the problem.

    Thanks for all your replies

    Flossie
     
  8. 2003/03/28
    Bmoore1129

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    Thanks for posting back. Glad you got it fixed.:)
     
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    Flossie and everyone else....

    I have been using this type of cpu cooling fans on all my systems
    (12 all together), Including 3 servers. They have never failed me nor have they ever allowed the systems to over heat even when over clocked. See what you guys think:
    http://www.casecooler.com/zalcncucophe.html
     
  10. 2003/04/07
    best5

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    Hello

    One of the hottest :) issues is :
    all the time the CPU clock is active and
    this is the main cause of heatting.So, apart
    from cooling it via the heat sink, you can use
    a program (as CPUidle or VCool)which will
    disable the clock generator while the CPU is
    in idle state - most of the time it's idle.
    If you have a Gygabyte Mo/Bo with VIA KT-266
    chipset, I recommend you VCool1.8beta8.
    If you don't find it in net, post me a message and I'll send it together with some set up tips.

    regards

    Stefan

    my mail
     
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    spankydata

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    Hi
    I had a problem with an overheating amd athlon 2000 which went on for some time as I didnt know that was the problem when my computer kept swithing off ! Ive now changed the heat sink and fan (and used thermal paste), and the cpu temp is down to a constant 59 deg centigrade. Is this a reasonable temp or should I try and get it cooler? (I realise I may have already buggered up the cpu).
    thanks
    steve
     
  12. 2003/04/15
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    I finally burned my 2000 athlon xp up this last weekend...ran between 120-135.....got a 2400 and under full load only hits 120....think maybe the 2000 and lower have problems? I use a volcano 9 heatsink..soon to go water cooled...the darn thing sounds like a 747 setting next to me....
     
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    Spankydata: 59 seems high to me. I would be shooting for ~50. My cpus seem to be unstable above 55.
     
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    Just curious about how you actually determine the running temperature of your system....is it as simple as inserting a (rectal?) thermometer through a hole in the case?
     
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    doubleu - I'll assume you said that in all sincerity and refrain from what I otherwise would have said. Most MB's have some type of software utility capable of measuring cpu temp along with a slew of other setings. You can also get to this in your bios unless you are running an Osborne or TRS80. If you don't have anything that does the trick for you, try Mother Board Monitor.

    http://mbm.livewiredev.com/

    Hex92 - right on the mark. Should be in the low to mid 40's.

    ;)
     
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    doubleu

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    rockster2U ... the question was very serious although I took some license in the way I phrased it. You aren't a proctologist by profession, are you?

    At any rate, I really had no idea how to determine my system temperatures, and even when you suggested that the info was likely available from bios or whatever, its all beyond my ken.

    But I've downloaded the program you've suggested and now I have another question:

    I believe the other posters are using Celsius (Centigrade) in referring to optimum CPU temperatures...can you confirm? My AMD 1800 is running at 35 C (without much load as you can tell from my lack of knowledge), which I'm assuming is OK.

    By the way, did you hear about the doctor who went to cash a cheque (check) at the bank and when he reached in his pocket to get a pen, pulled out a rectal thermometer instead. "'****, he said, some *******s got my pen "!

    Gotta love us Canadians, eh?
     
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    bobmc32

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    :D Good one doubleu ! The rectal inserted into an aperture in the case might give you an indication of the system temp. Otherwise, if what you see is 35°C I think you are doing very well. My Tbird Athlon 1.2 (which runs hotter than the XP's so I understand) runs around 49°C or a little higher depending upon the box temp. But that's under full load with distributed computing UD project.
     
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    Rockster2U

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    1.2's, both 100's and 133's usually run a little cooler than that, the 1.3's and 1.4's were the hottest. Yes, the 0.13 chips do seem to run a bit cooler.

    And yes, they were talking centigrade.

    We'll try to love em' all, but not your Prime Minister...............



    ;)
     
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    doubleu

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    When I wrote that my temperature was 35 C, that was before I had properly tweaked the program....readings from two sensors show temperatures t idle of 35C and 42C. Loading the CPU to 80-90% for 6 minutes generates temperatures of 39C and 47C respectively on each sensor.

    I have two fans...one is the fan which I assume came with the motherboard (KTS Ultra2 MS6380E...whatever that means) and which varies between 4700 and 4900 rpm, plus a second fan with a fixed rpm of 2750.

    If this is within the ballpark for safe operation, I'm happy...

    I didn't miss your shot about our Prime Minister but this isnt' the place to get into that.....
     
  20. 2003/04/19
    doubleu

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    Rockster2U ... your initial comment about finding temperature stuff in the BIOS intriqued me sufficiently that today I decided to read my motherboard manual for the first time.

    To my utter amazement, I discovered that there is a utility on the set up CD provided by MSI ( the motherboard's mother) that shows the same data (more actually, or in more detail) than your suggested download. I've installed it, uninstalled MBM and things are humming along just fine.

    Thanks for the heads up....no pun intended.
     
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