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Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Steve R Jones, 2008/03/29.

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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    Should be interesting....I'll be about two hours into Happy Hour at 8pm:eek:
     
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    I just don't buy this Global Warming science. :rolleyes:
     
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    I will be sure to turn on all lights, heater to the max along with my 4 autos, 5 tractors and 2 combines and avery thing else I can find to trun on. Guess better also burn my 55 gallons of used oil , maybe burn all the old car/tractor tires I can find.

    what science, it is just there opinon, as of yet.
     
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    Arie

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    No, the evidence is pretty convincing, only the complete @#!$ would claim there's no global warming.

    Now what the effects will be, we'll have to see.

    Turning off public lighting for one hour is of course completely useless.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    I have a sure fire test for the NON Believers:

    Drive automobile into home garage
    Leave engine running
    Close garage door

    Count to 12,243,555 -> if you make it then green house gases produced by man have no effect on man.
     
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    Hi All

    There is global warming, but who or what is the cause of it?
    As far as I know the biggest contributors are cows. So, let's kill all the cows.
    Also, who or what is melting the glaciers on mars?
    I say the sun is in a period of more intense output and will cool again in a few years.
    Look up the new york times about 30 years ago and you will find the they where predicting that new york would be overrun by Polar bears because of all the global cooling. This goes in cycles and will return to normal in about 15 years. Till then, envoy the nice warm winters.

    Sven
     
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    Nice warm winters? Huh? Just the opposite here. :eek:
     
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    James,

    Are you telling me that it is cold where you are?
    What about all that global warming?
    Well, maybe you get it next year
     
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    Global warming? Remember I said a few posts ago that I don't buy that scenario. I think it's bogus science. Even the founder of the Weather Channel discounts it.
     
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    I love an argument!!!
    I agree with James on this. All the scenarios of doom, which of course help to sell newspapers, are being published by green organisations, (the ones that want us to stop flying, driving, having bonfires etc.), Internationally set-up research bodies,and NGO's, all of which which would lose all their government funding if their findings did not suit the sponsors of their research! A believer in conspiracy theories could say that governments are getting together on the global warming scare to make us ignore what a monumental *¤#&-up they are making of dealing with real problems! In order to do this many significant facts are ignored, or brushed aside, whilst all the predictions are based on 'models', 'algorithms' 'projections' never on facts.
    In fact there is a large, and growing body of meterological experts who think that the world is heading for a new ice age, but have problems bringing their findings to the notice of the public.

    A few facts:
    There was no ice cap on Greenland when Eric the Red settled it and grew crops in around AD 1000.
    In 1905 Roald Amundsmen sailed through the Noth West passage in a wooden boat with 7 men;
    In the 1940's a boat of the RCMP did the same passage several times.
    The warmest decade of the last century was the 1970's.

    Roger:eek:
     

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    Hi Steve,

    Just another FACT!
    The greenhouse gases produced by man amount to less than 1% (That's ONE %) of the total input of the atmosphere. The major culprits are water vapour and plants.

    Roger:confused:
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    And I'm certain that you're Not suggesting this 1% is "good" for the atmosphere....What about the componded effect?

    In National Geographic type shows where they study "ice cores," they see a marked difference in things regarding air/atmosphere that started getting much worse right around the time of the "Industrial Revolution."

    And last but not least - regardless of who-what-when started the warming trends, would removing ALL restrictions on the burning of fossil fuels help or hurt us in the long run?
     
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    Hi Steve,

    I think you missed my point!

    The warmest decade of the last century was the 1970's.

    Since then no decade has shown a average global temperature higher. There is a growing, and significant, body of scientific opinion that the world is cooling down. Not in government funded research organisations, obviously!

    Roger:eek:[/QUOTE]
     
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    Where's THAT???

    I can give you some figures from the Dutch Met office, that (my translation) say this:

    http://www.knmi.nl/klimatologie/maand_en_seizoensoverzichten/jaar/jaar07.html (Dutch)
     
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    Hi Arie,

    Not surprising. The Netherlands are too small an area to be a sample for global warming because changes are occurring like that all the time, both up and down. As an example, the immediate area around New York City has suffered a recorded average rise over the last few years, whilst Albany, further up-state has seen a cooling off. As more and more data gathered by satellites, not much up to now compared with the historical data, is being fed into the research programmes the picture is changing. Too much of the land based data has been gathered from sites which in the past may have been rural, but are now influenced by large scale building developments, and the heat island effects of large towns are well documented.

    The third paragraph of the attachment relates to your "Where's that? "

    Roger:)
     

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    The Netherlands is 41,526 km² (16,033 sq mi ), which compared to the US might be small, but isn't that small either.

    I'm sure those figures are also true for Germany/France and most of W. Europe, although I'm not inclined to go & find out.

    Like I said, temperatures ARE rising (at least here in Europe).
     
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    Well, I guess I'll through my 2 cents in.

    I believe there is global climate change. The term "global warming" is a terrible term to describe the changes that the planet looks to be confronting. Places will warm while other places well be in a deep freeze.
    http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm

    Another interesting articles
    http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm

    http://www.enviroliteracy.org/article.php/545.html

    Weather patterns will shift dramatically, there will be mass migrations of peoples around the world, chaos will ensue.
     
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    Thanks for the leads Hill, very interesting, particularly the one to Daily Tech. On the whole I think that I would prefer a bit of global warming rather than cooling, but the more I read, the more I think that there is far too much 'jumping on the bandwagon' by quasi-governmental organisations of pro-global warming voices.

    Roger;)
     

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    I don't buy into it (never have) and believe that within a few years there will be "other" theories offered for our changing weather patterns. Anything Al Gore is involved in makes me suspicious. :rolleyes:
     

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