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Ad-aware <=> Spybot

Discussion in 'Security and Privacy' started by Christer, 2003/01/27.

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  1. 2003/01/27
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I just downloaded Spybot to compare with Ad-aware.

    Ad-aware found 8 entries which all were cookies except for one TIF.

    Spybot found 72 entries.

    13 were red, most of them were cookies but also registry changes and ticked for action.

    No entries were black.

    59 entries were green, not ticked for action. Most of them were registry keys and some were logfiles. The TIF-folder and Cookie-folder were also there.
    The Help-section says that it can do no harm to remove these.

    Does the green colour indicate that they are harmless but not needed so therefore removing is optional?

    Is there any reason why they shouldn´t be removed?



    TIA,
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    shadowhawk

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    I just got Spybot myself. I believe the ones in green are OK to leave on.
     

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    mr.mark

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    my own practice is to bust 'em all... everything goes! the fact that SB has a recovery feature, and that all "fixed" items are zipped and stored in the recovery folder gives me greater confidence that if i remove something i want back, i can recover it... as long as i haven't purged the recovery files, which i do periodically.

    as a useful tip, did you know you could configure SB to Select all items ?

    i think you might also benefit, in trying to decide what is safe to "fix" and what isn't, by doing some more research at the SB site.

    check out patrick's dictionary to help you decide what should stay and what should go.

    take a look at all of the spybots and adbots that SB detects...

    and get an even deeper display of the knowledge base threats by selecting one and clicking on "display entry ".

    after spending some time doing this, i'm sure you will have a real good idea of what the entries mean.

    hth

    :)

    mark
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I was planning on reading more about it but asking someone who already knows is quicker! ;) Okey, okey, I know that I´m a lazy bugger!! :eek:



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    mr.mark

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    quicker? i don't think so. not when you ask a question ( "Is there any reason why they shouldn´t be removed? ") that is bound to get you a bunch of different answers.

    that's why i suggested specific places to look on the SB site. i din't just say "go read it ", did i? <g>

    as i look over the many responses and opinions on these SpyBot threads, i see folks saying they only delete the red marked entries, and i see folks saying they blast them all.

    the SB home page will define these entries for you and enable you to come up with your own plan.

    :)

    mark
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    It seems to me that a lot of questions have multiple answers. On most occasions You have to make up your own mind depending on your situation.

    In a previous thread I asked about NTFS and FAT32 and I´m still counting the pros and cons.
    Whichever file system I decide to use, I intend no disrespect towards the people who argued that the other one was to be preferred!

    Life is hard on us who are still learning ...... :(



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    mr.mark

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    Alice

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    I'm not on my own pc right now to tell you exactly where, but you can go into the Cookies Excludes list and check off those cookies you want to keep (LIKE THOSE FROM THIS SITE) before "blasting away" the rest from Cookies and Temporary Internet Files. I use Spybot as a cookie manager that way since the cookies excluded from deletion will remain 'protected' until you uncheck them frfom the excluded cookies list..
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    That´s a good tip!
    I´ve always cleared my TIF-folder and cookie-folder manually and have always had to re-log in on the sites requiring this. Never bothered to identify the "benign" cookies.



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    Alice

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    To be honest one of the main reasons I regularly run Spybot SD is to clean up cookies. The Excludes | Cookies featue makes it easy to keep the ones you want and delete the rest by selecting the Temporary Internet Files and Cookies items for removal. I check off both, to remove both the cookies and the TIF cookie pointers.

    As far as other "usage tracts" (items in green) I generally leave them alone since no one uses this pc except for me and my husband and HE doesn't worry me ;) In fact I prefer having a record of things like log files, recently opened files and download locations. As far as I know the main reason to be concerned about usage tracts would be to protect your privacy if you share your computer with other people.
     
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    Welshjim

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    To control cookies there are all sorts of simple programs--much simpler than Spybot.
    I use Cookie Jar
    http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/cookiejar.asp
    Basically, you run a scan and it tells you what cookies have been added since you last scanned with CJ. You then get to keep or delete, or even put on a banned list.
     
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    Alice

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    Hi Jim,

    I only run Spybot SD every month or so and at least the cookie management gives me a reason to run it since it rarely finds anything interesting.
     
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    Jim & Alice,

    I must say that SpyBot fits me to a tee. The cookies I need aren't dynamic so once I set them, SpyBot preserves them for me and dumps all others.

    Then of course, you need to opt for the "Expert Buttons" in SpyBot (options) so you can then have the "Select All" button available in the normal screen. With that and having exempted my favorite cookies, I just dump all the rest. It couldn't be much easier.

    :)
     
  15. 2003/01/28
    Alice

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    :confused: The "select all items" button was already available on the results screen :confused: Since I don't want to remove all usage tracts, only IE cookies and IE Temporary Internet Files, I've never used the Select all items button.

    I found the "Show expert buttons in Results list" option under Settings/Settings/Expert settings and checked it. What that does is place a new button called "File Sets" on the results screen and that lets you chose between "Select all available checks, Spyware check only, Usage Tracts check only, and Minimal Spyware check (whatever that is).

    Thanks for the tip on the Expert settings option. I used my new "File Sets" button to do a quick check for usage tracts using the "Usage Tracts check only" option and saw what categories of items were being selected.

    I've already excluded a number of items using the Excludes/Products/tracts.utii tab, stuff like Mozilla, Netscape Messenger, MS Paint, MS Wordpad, WinZip, etc, so I went back to that tab and checked more items - MS DirectDraw, Logs, Windows, Windows Explorer - all stuff that was appearing in the results screen that I didn't want to delete. Then I ran another "usage tracts only" check and the only items left were Internet Explorer items:
    IE Cookies
    IE Download Directory
    IE Last Used Directory
    IE Temporary Internet Files
    IE URL History
    IEUser Agent

    I guess I could right-click on everything except Cookies and Temporary Internet Files to "exclude this detection from future searches" at which point I could use the "select all items button" but now that the detections are down to just 6 items I think I can deal with finding the two items I want to delete ;)
     
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