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Troubleshooter shows selected media for Windows B/U is "write protected"

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  1. 2019/01/03
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    I attempted to run my weekly backup to an external large USB drive "F" (7452GB Seagate B/U & hub BK SCSI -USB) but the B/U failed. Upon opening the troubleshooter I found a note saying "Check your backup The media is write-protected"


    So I brought up the "F" drive in File Manager > Properties > Security, and listed I have 5 entries: "Everyone", "Authenticated Users", "SYSTEM", "Administrators (frayedknots-PC\Administrators)" and Users (frayedknots-PC\users}"


    The first four have all Permissions boxes checked (Full Control, Modify, Read & Execute, List folder contents, Read , Write), but do not have the "Special Permissions" box checked.


    "Users (frayedknots-PC\users)" has only the "Read &Execute", "List folder contents" and "Read" boxes checked.


    Drive is uncompressed and shows 2.62TB used of 7.27 TB total .


    Drive is running at appx 37° C


    As far as I can see there should be no "write protect" set for the drive.


    As usual, I have no idea....
     
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  2. 2019/01/03
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    Unplug & replug your external hard disk. See if it solves it .
     
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  4. 2019/01/04
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    Shut down computer > disconnected the USB drive(s) > restarted computer then attempted to add drive(s). Drives did not show at all.

    Shut down computer > plugged in drives > started computer > Drives were listed and accessible, so that bit of drama seems to be over, but, then I changed the backup drive to the (8TB) "F" drive, and did a backup as I would weekly.

    No joy. Drive STILL shows as being write protected; Same for "G" (2TB) drive.

    Stumped.
     
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  5. 2019/01/04
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    Can you copy files through Windows Explorer ?
     
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  6. 2019/01/05
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    I can.
     
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  7. 2019/01/05
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    Which program are you using for backup ? Maybe it has some problems.
     
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  8. 2019/01/06
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    Windows (native) backup program: recently re-loaded WIN10. That still loads the WIN7 b/u (or so it says on the {SETTINGS > BACKUP) page. comes on that is what I've been using. Could that re-install be the problem? I show 17.12.2018 as the last good backup, and I re-installed (from ISO) the OS on 18-12-2018, and no backups since.

    Now I'm REALLY confused!
     
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  9. 2019/01/06
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    I don't trust Win 7 backups as I have been unable to restore from them on many occasions. Get yourself a good backup program which actually restores too. I have been using AMOEI Backupper https://www.backup-utility.com/ for my backup needs & it works perfectly.
     
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  10. 2019/01/07
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    Strangely enough I d/l AMOEI this AM after reading some reviews. Co-inky-dink? Fate? Great minds in same gutter? Time will tell!!

    Thanks for the advice.

    V
     
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    AOMEI (Free version) took 12hr 27min to complete at an avg speed of 14.7mbs. Just wondering if this is only to be expected on initial b/u run or a constant thing?

    I'm still puzzled as to why the drives show being write protected for the windows backup, but have no problem accepting this backup to the 8TB drive.

    Anyhow, it backed up.
     
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  12. 2019/01/07
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    Backup/restore speed is a variable depending on the source speed, target speed, amount of data, background processes etc. but only Full Backup take time. Incremental/Differential backups should be much faster.
     
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    Wow, how big is the partition/disk and how much of it is used? 12hr 27 min at 14.7mbs (MegaByte per Second, right?) multiplies to some 650 GB data size.

    I use TeraByte, Image for Linux, from a USB-stick. My LapTop has a 120 GB SSD with approximately 30-35 GB used. (Basically system and programs only, no user data which is transferred forth and back from/to my DeskTop on a USB-stick.) It takes approximately 6 minutes (if my memory serves me correctly) which is approximately 90 MB/s, six times faster.

    I smell something fishy ... o_O ... !
     
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    working on it... will be a few days as I'm off to the Dr.'s but I'll get back.
     
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    No panic, I'm just curious!
     
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  16. 2019/01/08
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    Make an incremental backup. It shouldn't take 12 hours - maybe minutes. If it takes 12 hours, something is wrong somewhere.
     
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    Using AOMEI?

    Location of "incremental back-up" command there? This is FAR more complicated than I had xspected!!!
     
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  18. 2019/01/09
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    After ransacking my memory, 6 minutes is for a smaller installation (half the size) of Windows XP. However, even if it took twice the time (12 minutes) to create the image of the Windows 10 system, it's still three times faster compared to your experience.
     
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  19. 2019/01/09
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    My comparison is not an incremental backup. It can be done using TeraByte too but not in this case.

    I've never done incrementals. Does that really save time? Creating a full image is reading and writing only. Creating an incremental, the system has to be read and compared to the most recent base image and what has changed is written to the incremental. Twice the reading but only a fraction of the writing. It saves space but does it save that much time?
     
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    Your profile doesn't say much about your computer (hardware) but after rereading the thread ...

    ... I came to think about USB-ports:

    USB 1.0 is limited to 1.5 MB/s
    USB 2.0 is limited to 60 MB/s
    USB 3.0 is limited to 625 MB/s
    USB 3.1 is limited to 1.25 GB/s
    USB 3.2 is limited to 2.5 GB/s

    I asked in a previous post if that's 14.7 MegaByte per Second. If it actually is 14.7 megabits per second (lower case according to the norm), that would correspond to 1.8 MegaByte per second (upper case according to the norm). If so, the size of the data would be approximately 80 GB and the external HDD could be connected to a USB 1.0 port, limiting the speed.

    Is your computer running Windows 7 or Windows 10?

    My Windows 7 DeskTop is backed up on a monthly basis using the ancient Norton Ghost 2003, booted from a floppy! I have today done the deed and it created the image (read and write) at 2400 MB/min (40 MB/sec) and it checked the integrity of the image (read only) at 6000 MB/min (100 MB/sec). The system is on a Hitachi HDD and the image goes to another Hitachi HDD in a mobile rack, both connected to SATA II ports on the motherboard. With these rates, it would be fine to use a USB 2.0 HDD for creation but checking would exceed the speed limit imposed by USB 2.0.

    To get "full speed" using any type of imaging software to a HDD or SSD connected to a USB-port, it should at least be USB 2.0 or preferrably USB 3.x.
     
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