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Resolved Can I load Windows XP Pro. SP3 onto a Sata slave drive on my new 64-bit Win

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    I hope my thread heading made sense. What I’d like to do is load Win. XP Prof. SP3 onto a slave drive. Actually, I know I can do it, but will it work, or would I need to download all sorts of new drivers to make it work on my new system and new ASUS Wireless motherboard?

    The reason I need to do this is because I have a very good Epson Expression1600 Scanner and I have searched everywhere for a driver that will make it compatible with my 64-bit Windows 7 system and cannot find one that works. I know the scanner works with Windows XP Professional SP 3.

    In other words will Win. XP work as easily as it used to when I’d load it up onto a 32-bit system?

    Thank you,

    bellisimo


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    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz 3.4 GHz
    Installed Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
    System Type: 64-bit Operating System
    C: Drive SanDisk Solid State 256 G
     
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    Ideally you'd install the older OS first - then Win 7 would create the needed boot manager.

    You also need to verify you can get XP drivers..

    But, to install XP second you'll need something like this:

    Dual-boot with anything you could want
    http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
     
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    Hi MrBill,

    Thanks for taking the time to offer support of my thread.

    I'll try to find a driver that will run on Vista and give it a try.

    Thanks again,

    bellisimo
     
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    Hi Steve,

    What happened is this. The technician at the sore where I bought all my hardware for this new computer installed Windows XP onto a slave drive after we had installed the Windows 7 O.S.

    When I go into bios, I can change to boot order so it will boot up with the drive containing Windows XP. He's a Chinese fellow and he downloaded a bunch of drivers from a website in China. It's a great website except you have to be fluent in Mandarin to use it.

    Anyway, after all of that, Windows XP tries to boot up but it quickly tells me there is a file missing and then shuts down. Just before that happens I see half of what looks like a blue screen of death for jus a split second before it goes back to rebooting. In other words, it doesn't work.

    Thanks for suggesting http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/

    Do you mind telling me what it does and how it works?

    Just so I clearly understand, am I correct in assuming that by just loading Windows XP onto one of my slave drives that it won't work normally on my Windows 7 system unless I download and install a bunch of driver for the Windows XP O.S. to work properly?

    Thank again,

    bellisimo
     
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    As I understand it, you will require your current Motherboard Drivers for the XP OS to operate on your computer.
    As a Slave HD, you should be able to view Files only. Neil.
     
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    Thank you elcajongunsfan,

    Would you mind telling me a bit more about this product and how it is used. I looked at it and the information they make available is way above my pay grade:)

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    Hi retiredlearner,

    I think I misspoke when I referred to my XP hard drive as a slave drive. It's really just an extra hard drive that I can hopefully set the boot order for and run Windows XP on.

    I tried to boot that drive up earlier today and I got the blue screen that I had mentioned last night of having seen very briefly. It was not the BSOD but rather, it was a message saying something was wrong and that Windows was shutting down. It said to try to reboot and if I get the same message that I should run CHKDSK on the drive.

    I don't know how to do that when I cannot get Win. XP to start up.

    I tried to boot it up with the XP disk in an attempt to run a Win. XP repair installation, but XP wouldn't open. It's possible that there is something wrong with the hard drive, I guess.

    Thanks again,

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    basically, you run another operating system in what is called a virtual machine--A glorified term for .vhd or virtual hard drive on your hard drive. Let's say you have a 1 terabyte hard drive, you would carve out about a 40 gigabyte portion and install your operating system on it. People do this to test or run another operating system. For example, On my Win 7 Pro 64 bit, I have two operating systems that I can fire up and run side by side with Win 7: Win 8 and Win 2008 Server. I dont' like Win 8 right now and prefer 7, but i keep it in a virtual box just to run and see what it's like.. The 2008 Server was for a Capstone project I needed to do to graduate from National University.

    V Box is free, it's an Oracle thingy. You run Vbox, create the size of your virtual machine ( normal is 40 gig) and install the operating system on that .vhd (virtual hard drive) You don't like it just delete the .vhd. Pretty simple.

    Regards
     
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    Thank you elcajongunsfan,

    Could I put it on the external hard drive that I use to back up my system with Acronis?

    If so, I'll try it. I appreciate the suggestion.

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    Hi again elcajongunsfan,

    I just looked at the disk for my ASUS motherboard and it doesn't seem to be compatible with Windows XP. It's only good for Windows 7 and maybe Windows 8.

    That wouldn't matter using a virtual machine, would it?

    Thanks again,

    bellisimo
     
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    Thanks retiredlearner,

    I'll try it out. Much appreciated.

    bellisimo
     
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    Maybe I read your original post wrong, but I thought you said you like your scanner and it only works on XP. If xp mode isn't working for you run XP operating system in a virtual machine. Most people put their .iso image on the desktop and then instruct the virtual box where to find and install the o/s (operating system). I don't understand what the asus setup disk has to do with a program. One thing I can tell you is if you do run a virtual machine, you do need to go into the BIOS and enable virtual mode.. It's easy to find there
     
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    Hi elcajongunsfan,

    In an earlier post, Neil had said he thought I might require my current Motherboard Drivers for the XP OS to operate on my computer. That's what I meant about the ASUS disk.

    I'm glad you mentioned the need to go into bios, etc.

    I have downloaded the program but it doesn't seem to have much in the way of instructions. I'll fiddle with it and see if I can make sense of it.

    Thanks again,

    bellisimo
     
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    Lot's of doc's and forum help!!!!

    https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/End-user_documentation

    https://forums.virtualbox.org/

    https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=60196 <=== set up XP on a SATA
     
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    Hi elcajongunsfan,

    Thanks so much for these links. I shall wade through the forums and try to figure this out.

    Much appreciated,

    bellisimo
     
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    You don't need to do any of this.
    I have this exact same scanner and recently had to upgrade my computer system to Windows 7 -64 bit to avoid the impending xP support issues with my business management software. When I tried to connect my scanner to the new system, it was a no-go. I finally contacted Epson support and they directed me to Ed Hamrick's VueScan Scanner Software. It is a third party software that you can try for free by going to cnet's download.com to download or to hamrick.com. It is a very inexpensive software and works great. Try this solution before you go into all of the hardware modifications. I think you'll fix the problem much more easily.
    Eric
     
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    Thank you Eric,

    Yes, I went to hamrick.com and couldn't find a driver that worked. But, if it worked for you, I'll try again.

    Thanks very much for taking the time to respond to my thread.

    bellisimo
     

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