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Resolved 2 "Network Connections" in Control Panel

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    James Martin

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    A screenshot with properties for each network connection may be beneficial.
     
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    jpChris

    jpChris Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi all,

    He had to take his computer back. I'm going to have him reset the CMOS and then load Fail Safe Defaults. I have the users manual so I'll be able to guide him. Plus, he has the install disk.

    The MOBO is and ECS (ELITE) W/built in sound and LAN. I know the LAN drivers are VIA.
     

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    retiredlearner

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    Therefore they should show in BIOS as onboard components.
    Did someone try to make a Local Area Network (in house) to communicate with other comps in the home? Neil.
     
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    jpChris

    jpChris Inactive Thread Starter

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    Yes. He couldn't have AT&T DSL because they don't allow two connections on the same trunk (yet, he could have DSL Extreme "” an AT&T reseller!!!).

    The techs came out and tried to setup a wireless connection to his neighbors WiFi Router, but it was too far away. So, they drilled a hole in his wall (and the neighbors) and hardwired directly to the neighbors router. They're both OK with this setup.

    Hopefully with resetting the CMOS one of the two Network Connections will disappear. No matter what he does to one, the same changes are made to the other one.
     
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    !!!!!!!! This is amazing.
     
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    retiredlearner

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    I wonder :rolleyes: Who pays the Bill for the shared connection? Neil.
     
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    MrBill

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    This is illegal to start with.

    Then when the one sharing goes to some bad websites or downloads something that is against the law, the owner of the line will have his hands full with the law.
     
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    James Martin

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    What's the difference between this setup and sharing a WiFi portal? If a wireless signal is strong enough, and someone next door can receive it, and the owner doesn't mind sharing the network password, what difference does it make?

    I mean, the bandwidth is not going to increase...rather, it will decrease if two PCs are online at the same time.

    Technically, it sounds unethical, but I don't see anything wrong with sharing bandwidth inside, or outside, the home.
     
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    SpywareDr

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    AT&T Terms of Service
     
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    James Martin

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    Sounds like the TOS is referring to *unauthorized* third party use. Not someone that you permit to use your connection.
     
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    MrBill

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    AT&T or any other provider is loosing $$$ because instead of having 2 separate customers, they have one sharing. Public WIFI is different.

    Read AT&T terms of service. I am sure other providers have the same clause.

    I worked for Bell and AT&T for 30 plus years and also 6 years for other providers and their contracts say the same thing. We were supposed to report any of this type of stuff which I did. My job depended on it. Never knew if you were being set up or not. Better safe than sorry.

    It is ILLEGAL no matter what the 2 parties agree to. It violates their contract and can cause penalties to the one who has the agreement with the provider.
     
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    James Martin

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    Shared WiFi connections would be more difficult to spot wouldn't they? Course, all a tech would have to do look at the modem / router lights to see how many active connections are present (If the tech comes inside the home).

    A relative of mine stayed with us for a couple of weeks, and I permitted her access to my WiFi signal for both her laptop and her smartphone. I don't think the phone company would have minded as long as the third party resided with me?

    For what it's worth, the relative, and I, both, are AT&T customers.
     
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    SpywareDr

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    retiredlearner

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    I'm confused. Surely you get a Telephone line to your house which will carry the internet traffic?
    Even with fibre optics, you get the connection to your house independent of your neighbour.
    I can understand wireless being accessed between neighbours by sharing the Password, but every house in our street is on the same "trunk ".
    I don't think the Technicians you refer to were from the Telco?
    What they have done is definitely illegal. Neil.
     
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    MrBill

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    That is under your roof at YOUR address. Not the next door neighbors. What you did was LEGAL. The running the wire or even sharing a connection by any means not under the same roof is ILLEGAL.
     
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    MrBill

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    Yep. Agree 100%. Somebody's butt would be fired if caught. You can't even have a party line with DSL. One dedicated pair of wires to an address and you can have a phone number on it and also DSL. DSL actually works on a half a pair of wires. It set to run on the whole pair. I have seen one side of the pair go open (break) and the customer still has DSL but no phone. Has happened to me before and I was able to report the trouble by internet because my phone wasn't working.
     
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    James Martin

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    Thanks for clarifying that.
     
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    retiredlearner

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    MrBill, I had it the other way round. We had no DSL but were able to phone the Telco about the problem.
    Guy spent 1½hrs in the evening doing tests on the line and couldn't find the fault. A Technician was allocated the job in the morning and found a bad soldered joint at the exchange. All fixed in 15 minutes.
    It's one of the reasons I want to connect to the UFB (fibre optic) which is outside our property running through the berm. Problem is I have to change Telcos to get the deal I want and will have to wait till next July to get it done. 12 Months contract and it will cost me $134.00 to make the change now. Neil.
     
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    jpChris

    jpChris Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi all,

    Thanks for the responses, but you missed that the FCC does not allow 2 DSL connections on the same trunk. Period. His neighbor lives behind him and after the AT&T techs came out and tried to get a WiFi signal (they couldn't), they were the ones that hardwired his computer to hers — she's totally OK with this, and I think he pays her some money, too. So, he didn't do anything: The techs did after they got permission from the boss.

    Also, I couldn't agree more that AT&T is losing money: but FCC prohibitions are FCC prohibitions; no getting around it.

    p.s. I don't have to worry about the 2 icons anymore. I built him a new system.
     
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    James Martin

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    What exactly is meant by "trunk" ? I've looked it up, but I'm still a little fuzzy on it.
     

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