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Resolved Recommendations for Desktop Search?

Discussion in 'Other PC Software' started by psaulm119, 2012/03/23.

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    psaulm119 Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Google has abandoned one of its best products (Google Desktop Search), and I haven't been happy with either of two replacements that I've tried, Windows Search and Copernic.

    Has anyone been happy with anything else? I live by my desktop search, so I want something that can search the contents of my files, and not just the titles of teh documents.
     
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    Everything Search doesn't search the contents of files, which is a showstopper for me.
     
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    Agent ransack takes a bit too long, compared to the traditional (indexed) desktop search.

    Thanks anyways.
     
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    FileSearchEX (GOFF Concepts)

    Searches inside files, expands network shares, view image thumbnails, simplified search UI (like XP, but modern), works well with limited account permissions, low system requirements, portable, ...
     
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    FileSearch looks interesting, but it is not an indexed search. In other words, it searches everything again, each time you enter a search term. This does slow it down (compared to those programs--such as Windows Desktop search and Copernic-- which simply search a previously-created index).

    I am looking for a desktop search that indexes all your files, then searches through that index, not through the computer itself, for each search.
     
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    Did you try it?

    Just used it to do a search through 112,000 files (69,032,310,002 bytes [69GB]) in 61,319 Directories for "*.*" containing the words "Transacciones por segundo ". It found all 62 asp.net files containing that string in 21 seconds.
     
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    Yes, I did try it. Just to show you what I'm talking about, I tried searching for "revolutionary war" and it took over a minute to find more than two results; by the second minute (after 120 seconds I stopped the search), I had 73 results, and this was after taking the time telling it to only to look in the D partition (which still keeps it from searching my desktop, which is always a possibility for a document). I told it to search only the D partition so that it wouldn't go through the C partition.

    Using Windows search gave me lots of results instantly, and after hitting enter (for the more results window to appear), I got 398 results in just a few more seconds.

    Even 21 seconds is a lot longer than I'd like to wait.
     
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    If I could get something that was a bit more consistent that copernic and Windows, I don't know.... say $50. A trial period of a full-featured program would be best. WDS and Copernic seem ok for a couple of searches, and then it breaks down. Nothing was like Google for consistently bringing exactly the file that I was looking for.

    Copernic has a pro version, but the same "engine" drives both products (free and pro), and the search results are displayed in the same order (in both free and pro versions).

    I gotta say, 50 would be pretty close to an upper limit. I'm not sure I want to shell out 100 USD for something like this...
     
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    Sorry. I'm afraid I don't know of an instantaneous solution for a laptop running an AMD A6-3400M and 5,400 RPM hard drive. (What's the max read/write, maybe 150MB/s?)

    That 21 seconds above to search through every single, solitary byte of ~69GB of "-current-" data was with an i7 2600K pushed to ~4.2 GHz on a ~500/300 MB/s SSD. Might be able to reduce that to 5 seconds or so by cranking it up to ~5GHz and plugging in a 2,800 MB/s OCZ Z-Drive R4 RM88 SSD, ($13,300 USD for the 1.6TB).
     
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    OK, when you mentioned spending money, I thought you meant for a pro desktop search, not upgrading the hardware so FileSearch would go faster. :D

    I think I'll stick to Windows or Copernic. Thanks for the suggestions, anyways.
     
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    Copernic Desktop Search in an "index" based search, so is Instant Document Search.

    Copernic is free for non-commercial home use, costs $60 for the Corporate edition, while Instant Document Search has a 30-day trial version and costs $29.95 for a Personal license or $49.95 for a Business license.

    I haven't tried them.
     
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    Keep in mind that to be worthwhile, indexing must be done regularly. Problem is, indexing takes up a lot of processor time, leaving less computing power for other tasks.
     
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    Yea, I know. That's the tradeoff if you want a search based on an index. I'm trying Copernic Desktop Search...
     
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    I don't know how Windows does it, but Copernic has an adjustable time frame of "x minutes of idle time" before it updates the index. So if you are typing a document or even surfing, no indexing will be done, but as soon as you stop for a few minutes, it will update with everything since the last time an update was done. IIRC, Google Desktop Search had a similar feature.
     
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    Copernic isn't bad, mind you, but I just found the way they arranged the results to be not so good. They sort either by location or by date (modified?); Google desktop arranged them by date or "relevance." It always seemed that the "relevance" option was the best, unless I recalled that this was a very old (or new) document, allowing me to locate it in one particular place in the list of results. I have found Copernic on the average won't return the file I want as soon in the results page, as much as Google would have, but of course your mileage may vary.
     

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