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Audio Stuttering on Mp3, Youtube, and Some Games on Windows XP

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Arrow Strider, 2011/01/04.

  1. 2011/01/04
    Arrow Strider

    Arrow Strider Inactive Thread Starter

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    Okay Guys:

    I´m not sure if it´s the right place to post it, but here goes:

    I´m with Windows XP SP3 and when i use WMP to play Mp3, My sound stutters badly for a few seconds (Ramdonly). The same happens with Youtube Videos, and some Games.

    I searched dozens of foruns, threads and Topics and all i could find with people experiencing the same problem goes below:

    1 - Some problem with their Optic Disc on Dell Systems - Temporary solution is to leave a CD in the drive. (I tried that even with my system being NOT a Dell one. Didn´t Worked)

    2 - A Conflict Between Wireless cards and sound cards. (I don´t use Wireless! I have a PCI Wired Lan Card, toug.)

    3 - FFDSHOW Codec misbehaving. (I´ve dowloaded the FFDSHOW and installed... to no avail.)

    So, here goes what i did so far and the results:

    Problem started with my Sigmatel/IDT High Definition Audio on a XP Clean Install (All Updates installed from Critical to Optional, Avira fully updated, i don´t think i have a malware). I tried to update the drivers using "AUD_allOS_D20001.0x_PV_IDTGUI_v105_Legacy.exe" and no dice. Random stuttering still there.

    I disabled The Sigmatel/IDT High Definition Audio and installed a Sound Blaster PCI128 (CT 4815) Sound Card. Problem Still Persists! :mad:

    I don´t recall if this was happening on Seven... I Really like XP for all cross platform things i Do and i preffer it for low resources cost when it comes to run Games.

    So, i guess something is wrong with Windows Updates for XP. Something is not right.

    This issue is being driving me mad, Can someone help?
     
  2. 2011/01/05
    Arie

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    You mean that a modern day OS (Windows 7) was working fine, but the old and tired (XP) is not?

    Oops, I think I gave you the answer :D

    Only thing I can think of is to leave you task manager open, sort by CPU usage, and see if you can identify a process that uses a lot of CPU cycles when the stutter happens.
     
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    Arrow Strider

    Arrow Strider Inactive Thread Starter

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    Arie, if that´s an answer, i can only think that Microsoft sabotaged Windows XP in order to force people to Upgrade to Seven.

    The issue started some time ago and my bet is on some flawed KB, or some codeck pack... can´t be a driver issue if i changed sound cards, right? Maybe UAA Sound Architeture, or DMA.

    When it comes to Windows Seven, 80% of my clients who bought new computer comes to me asking to remove it and install their older Windows XP... It´s not everyone who likes resource demanding, visualy confusing, and support lacking for secondary hardware they allready own. But please, let´s not turn it into a discussion of XP vs. Seven...:D

    Well, i couldn´t identify pikes so far on task manager. Any Other Hint?
     
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    Hi Strider,

    Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Mangler > Sound, Video, Game Controllers: Click the "+" sign.

    Any yellow "? "s or "! "s?
     
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    Arrow Strider

    Arrow Strider Inactive Thread Starter

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    Not a single one. All drivers installed.

    Edit:

    Doing quite the contrary:

    Instead of formatting and installing XP again, i´m at Windows Update trying to acquire more critical fixes.
     
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    Arie

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    There's no need: XP will be 10 years old this August. :D


    What you can do to check (what I have done in the past with the most difficult problems) is to take out your current HD, plug in a new drive & do a clean install. Only install XP, upgrade to SP3, get all the drivers & fixes and see if you have the same problem or not.

    If the new install works, you've just shown that it is something installed/running on your current Windows install.
     
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    jpChris

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    Have you tried using another player instead of WMP?
     
  9. 2011/01/07
    markmadras

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    Just a suggestion, your present memory is not running on dual channel, according to the mobo manual. Dual channel is only achieved with matched pairs. This link below shows the memory that is compatible with the mobo, might be worth checking against what you have. It may also be worth putting in a matched pair.

    http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d945psn/sb/CS-026977.htm
     
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    Arrow Strider

    Arrow Strider Inactive Thread Starter

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    Another reason for Micro$oft to do it. No other system prevailed so long. And Seven certainly will not endure so long as XP.


    Did it in another order:

    Fresh installation of XP SP2 in another HD...
    Installed all drivers i´ve been using so far...
    installed all Apps, games and the like...
    DIDN´T made any windows updates or installed any hotfixes. And stutterings are gone.

    So, i´m positive that it IS some KB.
     
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    Arrow Strider

    Arrow Strider Inactive Thread Starter

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    Yup... several. No luck.

    Even tried other Internet Browsers as this happens with streaming media(Youtube) too... No Dice.

    Uninstalled all codecs and removed every registry entryes. Stutters still present after reboot. So, it´s not codec either.
     
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    Arrow Strider

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    Thanks for the tip, MarkMadras!

    But when i buyed those memory modules, my supplier didn´t had a matched pair, and i was like "what the heck... XP won´t recognize 4 GB´s anyway..."

    And so i kept it the way it is. But thanks for the suggestion!
     
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    markmadras

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    Glad to hear you got rid of the stutter but as you are only on SP2 which is no longer supported by microsoft you are wide open to attacks from the internet which could result in further problems.

    To keep your PC secure you need to get SP3 and keep the PC updated with all the important microsoft updates.

    Considering the fact that reinstalling everything apart from MS updates has cured the glitch I would suspect there was some file corruption or maybe even malware. I stand to be corrected but I have never heard of any MS updates causing sound problems.

    Obviously if the problem returns when you have all the updates in place I will have to eat my words:D.
     
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    When you installed XP SP2 you had WMP10 installed. SP3 has WMP11 (I think).

    Have you tried rolling back to WMP10 and Widows Media Format Runtime 9.5?
     
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    Arrow Strider

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    I tried in that occasion, and along with it, i used other media players too.

    Stuttering was still there.
     
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    Arrow Strider

    Arrow Strider Inactive Thread Starter

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    Man... i couldn´t care less about attacks coming from internet, since as an O.S., Windows is a good videogame to me. But since i paid for it, i ESPECT it to behave like 6 months ago, without stuttering. For serious things like development, bank account management and the like, i´ll keep with my Knoppix, thank you.;)

    Well, what to say? There´s an ALARMING rate of people complaining about the same issue and no one had a propper answer yet. Some of them followed the sheep flock behavior and "fixed" it installing seven. The majority are still out there fighting with it.

    My bet is that this issue will became GLOBAL on next month.:p

    My Sister have a entirelly different hardware and the same thing started to happen... guess what? She sent the computer for some other hardware technician guy to re-install windows XP. The computer arrived fresh installed with drivers, updates, hotfixes and nothing more... STUTTERING! :eek:
     
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    Arie

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    My bet is that it won't.

    Anyway, betting aside, I've an old C640 with a Mobile P4 2.0GHz and 768MB RAM running without problems (XP SP3).

    Also have a D820, Core2 Duo @ 2GHz, 4GB RAM, no problems either

    And running another instance in a VM on my Windows 7 machine... again, no problems.

    I don't know the WMP version the old C640 is running, but the other two are 11.0.5721.5145 and 11.0.5721.5280 respectively.

    I know it's frustrating, but to have a chance to find a possible cause, you'd have to do a lot of trouble-shooting.

    If you think an update is to blame, you'd either have to start removing recent updates, or start with a clean SP3 and start adding new updates one-by-one and testing after each one.
     
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    markmadras

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    Sounds like you have got your PC going OK now. This post by Zander is in another thread with a similar problem. I thought this idea may prove usefull to sort out your sister's PC or yours if the problem returns.

     
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    Arrow Strider

    Arrow Strider Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hello MarkMadras!

    Tried that once, only thing that shows consuming 99% of resources is "Idle System Time" process... no other pikes at all.

    realy weird.
     
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    Arrow Strider

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    Hey Arie!

    I got a client complaining about the same thing YESTERDAY. He told me that his technician recently formatted his gig with Xp Sp3 and ... Blammo! :eek: Same thing happened to him.

    Could be that there´s a different set of updates for different language versions?

    Even so, i have a sweden friend with same issues...:confused:
     
  21. 2011/01/14
    Alpha_and_Omega

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    Arrow Strider, I've had exactly the same problem... Once about 2 years ago and again just last week...

    After doing absolutley everything I could think of, including a clean install, a close friend told me to remove the ribbon cable on my hard drive and if that did not work try replacing them... When I did this 2 years ago, I ended up replacing the cables and as it turned out, it solve the problem...
    Since that time I've switched hard drives to SATA drives... and last week I found I had the problem back again.. I remember what I was told to try so I first unplugged the cables from the drive and plugged them back in, and again, that seemed to solve the problem..

    If that doesn't work, try what Aries suggested... That was also a suggestion I was given 2 years ago, but I never had to go that far....
     

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