Resolved Router needs reset daily

I have my WiFi network running off a trendNet TW100-BFR114 i than have a 8-port PoE switch by Netgear and 8 TrendNet AP's.

Every morning I come in the Wifi is not allowing internert connection , the connection is still established just limited to local.

If I by pass the switch the same issue occurs with a wired connection to the router directly.

I have metro-E service/VLAN from frontier communications so I have 2 ports set up each with their own public IP pointing to the internet and if I swap the ports around the same problem is still there, only the WiFi segment goes down.

TredNet had me update the firmware but no help, I really feel its a bad router but to have 2 bad in row? well thats what TrendNet says they are suspicious of my other network devices (switch/modem)

I replaced the router but the same issue still persists

What do you guys think? and suggest I test to find out?.

 

I can come in with a laptop and connect to the wifi establish a connection,
I just wont have internet. Thats pretty much all the WiFi is for, mobile users.
They can get a new IP or repair their connection all day long they can patch right in the the switch(if they had access) which I do and have done to test, no insternet till that router is power cycled.

 

The computers on the WiFi are not getting IPs from the routers DHCP they are getting the 169.x.x.x

The building isn't a squar mile of course it only 40k-45k in squar feet. I had 4 AP's at first, same brand TrendNet really inexpensive, but there where many dark spots or no reception zones, so I put added one in each hall. AP mode, static IP's. I don't have separate SSID's however I will change that( and probably the router as well)... DHCP is disabled in the AP's there only in AP mode all the work is on the router, but let me ask you, " would running them in bridge mode or letting them do the IP assigning take the load off the router? ".

Appreciate all your help-full knowledge,
-Gringoyle

 

Thanks for that info TonyT

All the routers connect to the PoE switch independently , no daisy chaining
i have not set them up as bridge yet cause of the holiday, I did see that they can be DHCP's.

So with this new info you have armed me with I am going to fix this, I'm sure.

-=Side Question=-
is there equipment that allows roaming users to move from AP zone to AP zone while connecting automatically without service interruption as if it was all one big WiFi zone?

 

I do not know if this has been answered
Are you running DSL or cable based broadband internet
On dsl settings there is a default setting of "connect only on activity" ( paraphrased)
Change that to "always on "
Its in the connection type settings
You might try updating the firmware as well

good luck

 

Thanks for that link
However I am still confused;
I had thought that AP mode was where the router did all the ip address via dhcp perhaps and the AP's where just a means to connect to that router(so even if there was many AP's to connect to you would be connecting to one network segment "same SSID, subnet and gatway ").
I had thought that Bridge mode was going to make the AP's act like their own dhcp/router making a separate network, SSID and subnet for each AP in Brige mode.

I ask this because I have them in AP mode. They all used to have the same SSID, but now there all on different SSID's, as you recomended, yet no mater what AP I connect to I will be on the WiFi nework same subnet and gateway.

Oh... since setting seperate SSID's I have had no isues with th WiFi segment, has been running strong for the last 3 days..Thanks for the advice.

-Gringoyle

 

Thanks for the help TonyT...
along with the great info I really appreciate it.

-Gringoyle

 

8 AP's is a lot of WiFi without a controller.

 

I have been looking at WiFi controllers i like how they improve seamless AP switching, a friend recommended the Cisco 2106 Wireless LAN Controller, but read that even though it has 8 ports it only supports 6 AP's and can only provide power to 2 AP's so I think that it only has 2 PoE ports.

what would you recommend? Cisco is so pricey I feel

-Gringoyle

-=I know this thread is solved so I hope I can still ask here. I will start a new thread if you feel I should.=-

 

well I spoke too soon, my WiFi seg went down again so I went and bought a cisco E3000, and it has more trouble it seems. I put it in place of the junk router and it only last for about 25 min. I set up the lan and wan settings connected a laptop to the wifi, surfed a min and than bam no internet, but I notice that I am still on the right network I have the right subnet and ip scheam, all is good just no internet. I can not ping the gateway or AP well some times I get 75% loss or 50%, weired stuff like that.

So I placed the old router back to see what I must have missed in the configuration, but it acts the same way. I released my ip and renewed, I get the ip address and subnet and gateway as it should be, but with out internet. If I reset or power the router its good, I can plug in to it and get internet. It seems to mess up whn I connect to the AP.

-Gringoyle

 

I don't see any print or markings on the ISP's device, there looks like a spot it was removed, so I was going to call them and ask them what you asked.

I went to work late today to find my boss using the WiFi, he said it worked when he got in, but it is intermittent some times the web page times out or is really slow to load. I have same results on my laptop.

There was one thing I changed today. I was double checking the settings in the AP's and on the LAN settings I had them all set to their static IP and the subnet but the default gateway was 0.0.0.0 I changed it to the routers IP in all the AP's but nothing has change performance wise, is still intermittent or very slow to display a web page if at all.

Do the AP's use bandwidth?
Does the router for the WiFi network need to be a wireless router? or doesn't matter?
I had a thought to bypass the router and program the AP's with the ISP's WAN settings?

-Gringoyle

-= Edit =-
If i patch in the the switch on the WiFi network I have no issues its only on wireless I have the poor service. Could I be experiencing some impedance?
But I still have haunting suspicion that tomorrow it will all be down again... even if I patch right in to the router