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Windows Vista Trying to speed up daughters Dell E1405 inspiron

Discussion in 'Legacy Windows' started by tquinn, 2010/08/16.

  1. 2010/08/16
    tquinn Contributing Member

    tquinn Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    My daughter's college laptop Iwith Vista Home) has been gradually slowing down. It could probably benefit from another gig of memory (has 1 now), but because it has changed, I've been trying to clean it up first. I ran Ad-Aware which found and cleaned 7 objects. I ran Symantec AV. I took off a few unused applications and simplified the Windows graphics. I disabled some things like Google toolbar.

    Now I've run HijackThis. Is anyone here experienced enough to look at its log and suggest anything obvious that that should be fixed?

    Admin: Malware logs are only allowed in the Malware removal forum.
     
  2. 2010/08/16
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Hi tquinn. Try following these steps to help make the labtop run faster and more efficiently.

    1. Click Start< Control Panel< Uninstall a Progam and uninstall any programs that you don't use. I would recommend uninstalling Norton AV since it tends to be a resource hog and can slow a computer down to a crawl.
    2. In Control Panel under Programs and Features click the link that says turn windows features on or off and uncheck all the checkboxes except for Games, Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0, Windows Ultimate Extras and click ok when you are done. (If you use a Windows Feature that is listed then don't uncheck its checkbox)
    3. Download and run ATF Cleaner and select all the checkboxes in the program then hit the empty selected button, http://majorgeeks.com/ATF_Cleaner_d4949.html
    4. Run Disk Cleanup. Click Start< All Programs< Accessories< System Tools< Right click Disk Cleanup and select Run as Administrator. Once Disk Cleanup finishes calculating how much space it can free up make sure that all the checkboxes are selected except for Hibernation Cleaner. Once all of those checkboxes are selected click the More Options tab and delete all of the old System Restore points. Once thats done click the ok button to perform the requested actions and click Yes when prompted.
    5. Disable any Windows Services that you don't use by following Black Vipers Services Guide.
    6. Download and run Auslogics Disk Defrag from here, Auslogics Disk Defrag.
    7. I see in the hijackthis log that the computer is running Windows Vista Service Pack 1. I would recommend downloading and installing SP2 immediately since the service pack will fix bugs in Vista and speed up the operating system. Download it from here.
    8. Remove the following entries in Hijackthis: O18 - Protocol: mhtb - {669A2A3A-F19C-452D-800D-1240299756C1} - C:\Program Files\Celebrity Toolbar\mhxpcomi.dll
    O2 - BHO: MyHeritage New Tab - {D62EC836-BF1E-4CAC-81BE-FB9179835D8E} - C:\Program Files\Celebrity Toolbar\mhxpcomi.dll
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {5C255C8A-E604-49b4-9D64-90988571CECB} - (no file)
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://search.myheritage.com

    Do you use the Celebrity Toolbar, Google Toolbar, Roxio/Sonic Software or Real Player? If not I would suggest that you uninstall those programs as well.

    Also please keep in mind that hijackthis logs aren't permitted outside of the Malware and Virus Removal Forum.

    9. Try also shutting down all background programs that are running in the system tray in the taskbar. Does the computer still slow down after shutting down all background programs?

    Let me know if the computer is faster after performing the above steps. :)
     
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  4. 2010/08/17
    tquinn Contributing Member

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    Terminator,

    Thank you for the suggestions. Some of those I'd already completed, and didn't mention in my post, but some others have not been done yet. So I take care of that and upgrade to SP2 right away (I run XP, so I didn't know that Vista had an SP2).

    I have to double check on the Norton AV, because I think that is provided by her University, and she must use it. But I could shut off its "Auto-Protect" which is the big resource hog.

    Sorry about posting this in the wrong forum. I've used this site for years, but didn't know or didn't remember that rule.

    Terry
     
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    That would be most unwise :)
     
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    Evan Omo

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    Keep me posted whether you notice a difference in the computers speed after upgrading to SP2.

    As for Norton, if its being provided by your daughters university then you may have to leave it installed and running.
     
  7. 2010/08/27
    tquinn Contributing Member

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    Results of all the modifications

    I'm going to provide a summary here of the changes we made to speed my daughter's Dell laptop computer with Vista. While we started out measuring things like time to load programs and data, by the end it just turned out to be her subjective observations that I think would matter to most people here.

    Her Dell E1405 Insprion had a 1.73 Gig Dual Core processor and 1 gig of memory originally. It was a computer put into service in May of 2007. She used it for school and Facebook and email and downloading ITunes, but since she isn't a geek, she didn't put on applications that would really challenge the computer like gaming or video editing or anything like that.

    Other than doing periodic backups, and whatever Norton Antivirus (provided by the University) did to keep things clean, in that time neither she nor myself did anything much to keep the computer running well. And by the time we got to working on it recently, its performance was pretty doggy. (Maybe it always was). I have a Dell D610 Latitude with XP Pro SP3, running at the same clock speed with 1 gig of memory, and it was dramatically faster than hers.

    We did a lot of things, and I'm going to lump almost everything together here: We turned off hard disk indexing, removed ununsed programs, deleted leftover things in the registry found by HiJack This (as recommended by the friend in the thread above), ran virus scan, deleted gobs of temporary internet files, deleted other temporary files in Windows, simplified internet explorer settings per recommendations, and changed the Windows graphics and default display functions to remove all the power intensive things like transparent menus per recommendations on the internet. And, we upgraded to Vista SP2 from SP1. We probably did more than that, including most of what was recommended above. I didn't do a hard disk defrag, because it was still running on the "factory" Vista defrag automatic function, and since Vista doesn't do an analysis anymore, I just assumed it was as good as I could get it anyway.

    And in the end, here is how she described all of that effort: "It may have sped it up a little, but it was really hard to be sure." Not exactly a glowing endorsement after a lot of work.

    So I bit the bullet and sent out for a $45 two gig memory module, and over the phone I instucted her to pull out the two 1/2 gig cards and put that in.

    Lo and behold, her comment today, with the added memory, was, "Yeh, it's a lot faster now."

    I don't know how much faster, and will be looking at how well it does compared to the Latitude when she returns home at Thanksgiving. But I think the morale of the story is this: I'm sure there are a lot of ways to speed up Vista. But based on this one experience, the thing that will make the biggest change is to go from 1 gig to 2 gig memory, even after you do "all those other things. "

    I understand that if I do a bios upgrade (always a little scary to me, as you are on thin ice during the changeover), this E1405 computer can make effective use of four gigs of memory. Does anyone with Vista know if there is much incremental benefit to go from 2 to 2.5 or 3 or 4 gig?

    Thanks to everyone for their help. I'm going to mark this issue as resolved.

    Terry
     
  8. 2010/08/28
    PeteC

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    Thanks for the comprehensive update :) As you say speed is very subjective, but in general a slowing down is noticed by the user.

    I'm not sure that you can compare XP with Vista as they are different animals on different cores, but the memory requirements for Vista & 7 are higher than for XP.

    I would stick at 2 Gb RAM. There is little point in going to 4 GB unless she is running Vista x64 - Vista x32 will only use ~3.3 Gb of 4 Gb if installed. I can't comment on Vista never having used it, but in my experience with XP increasing the RAM from 512 Mb to 1 Gb produced dramatic results, moving up to 1.5 Gb produced a modest boost, but going on to 2 Gb gave no noticeable increase in speed, although the extra RAM was beneficial in Photoshop.

    Unless the BIOS update offers facilities or fixes that you need stick with what you have.
     
  9. 2010/08/28
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    Thanks for the additional comments on memory, and Vista x32's limited capability to use more. I've read previously about the diminishing incremental benefit of more memory in general. That makes sense if you "get enough" for the applications and operating system you have. Based on your comments, I'll be looking forward to comparing the agility of her Vista laptop with 2 gig to my XP laptop with 1.5 gig.


    Based on your experience with XP and this experience with Vista, I might have enough in her computer now. Maybe if I get energetic, I'll see what it entails to do the BIOS update and stick one of the .5 gig modules in to see if having 2.5 gig improves her Vista performance noticeably from 2.0. But it will be some time before I try that. If anyone else has actual experience going from 2 to 2.5 or 3 gig with Vista, information on that would be appreciated.

    My home computer is a 2.8 Gig P4 that came with 1 gig memory originally. Eventually I put in another 1 gig to go to 2. For normal applications I didn't see much benefit, but for video editing with Pinnacle Studio, it helped a lot, which is not surprising.
     
  10. 2010/08/28
    Evan Omo

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    Thats great that you were able to get the labtop running faster after ugrading the memory.

    I would have to say that you would notice the most improvement in speed by installing more memory in a computer. The things that I had you do in my first post will help get the computer to run better but ultimitely upgrading the RAM will make a system much faster.
     

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