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Win 7 HomeGroup

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Bob Graves, 2010/08/22.

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  1. 2010/08/22
    Bob Graves

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    I have two home computers running Win 7 x64. I can not make homegroup work. I suspect it has something to do with the firewalls. Neither computer runs windows firewall, one runs Computer Associates' firewall and the other runs Webroot's (Best Buy's) firewall. Is there a way to use the new Win 7 homegroup feature with the above firewalls? If not, can I go back to the previous method and share files on my wireless home network? And mount network drives?
     
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  2. 2010/08/22
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    Have you tried turning off the firewalls, do what you want to do, turn them back on and see if they ask you if you want to allow this?
     
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  4. 2010/08/23
    Arie

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    Have a read through this Microsoft document: HomeGroup and Firewall Interaction

    I haven't tested it, but it lists:

    But then there are ports too for Network Discovery, Core Networking, SMB, WMP and Media Center Extender..
     
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  5. 2010/08/24
    Bob Graves

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    Thanks for your reply.

    No I have not done precisely that. I did turn off the firewalls and shortly afterwards I had to reformat my hard drive to purge the virus. Thus I am reluctant to do that.

    I am going to try to find the ports and turn them all on.


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  6. 2010/08/24
    Bob Graves

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    Thanks for your response.

    Can you help me re-find where I can change port settings. I have seen the place sometime in the past and now I can not return to it. It looks promising because when I saw it in the past, there were two ports not selected. Can't remember which two.

    I am running Win 7and Office 2007
     
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  7. 2010/08/25
    Arie

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    You'll have to check with your 3rd party firewall, because there is were you need to add the rules to allow the traffic.
     
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  8. 2010/08/26
    Bob Graves

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    I have turned on the Ports TCP 3587, UDP 3540 in Windows Firewall on both computers and turned off the third-party firewalls and enabled Windows Firewall on both computers. One computer can create a homegroup and the other can join it. However the folders seen on the latter that belong to the folders on the former are empty. Also, the latter can not create a homegroup, I get the Windows Message: "Windows can not create a homegroup on this computer. "
     
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  9. 2010/08/27
    Arie

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  10. 2010/08/27
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    Arie, I am with you on that one.

    Even good old networking & sharing seems to be broken in Win 7. Sometimes it works, sometimes doesn't. Haven't been able to fathom why till now :confused:
     
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  11. 2010/08/27
    Arie

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  12. 2010/08/27
    Bob Graves

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    I took your advice and tried to map a network drive. I could not, Windows can not find my other computer even though it shows on the Win Explorer page as a member of my home group. When I run diagnostics, I get a message that something is wrong with my modem. I recycled the power on both the router and the modem. It did not help. When I tried to map a network drive on the other computer, I got exactly the same results.
     
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  13. 2010/08/28
    Arie

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    I ca only suggest to start testing your 'modem' (router?) first.
     
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  14. 2010/08/28
    rsinfo

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    Arie, my problem is not with other versions, its networking from Win7 to Win7 machine. The folder appear as shared on the other machine but it either appear as blank or give "Access Denied" message or sometimes work. Go figure it. I now believe its got something to do with moon phase. :D
     
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  15. 2010/08/29
    Arie

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    Well, (as I'm sure you know), "Access Denied" messages point to permission problems....
     
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    Well that's the whole point.

    I have not been able to unravel why it starts and stops working on its own without any intervention from my side. "Permission problems" should be an ongoing hassle & not a temporary roadblock.

    Anyway, since the 2nd computer is used by my kids, I am not very much bothered about whether they can access the shared folder on my computer or not but sometimes when I have to update their computer, it sure is APIA.
     
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  17. 2010/09/06
    Bob Graves

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    I have eliminated the router and modem as the problem. I have eliminated my anti-virus firewalls as the problem. I can neither create a homegroup nor map a network drive on either Windows 7 computers. Now I am wondering if it might be that the two 64 bit machines do not support sharing. Is that possible, and if so, when will Microsoft fix the problem?
     
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  18. 2010/09/07
    Arie

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    Check your network adapter setting for IPv6. Your network connection must have IPv6 enabled to create or join a homegroup.

    If you have to (re)enable IPv6, reboot your system before trying to create a HomeGroup.

    Is your network location set to Home network? HomeGroup only works on networks set to the Home network location.

    The Peer Networking Grouping and HomeGroup Provider services must both be running for HomeGroup to work.

    Try deleting the file idstore.sst from \Windows \ serviceProfiles \ LocalService \ AppData \ Roaming \ PeerNetworking
     
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  19. 2010/09/07
    Bob Graves

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    I found the following site encouraging: http://www.tunnelbroker.net/forums/index.php?topic=1076.0 but when I ran the regedit and drilled down to \parameter\ folder I did not find any subfolder called "DisabledComponents ". So I could not go any further. Previous to this I found a site that told me to use the following command in the cmd prompt window, "netsh interface ipv4" and it appeared to reset three things ok, next I ran the same command to reset ipv6 and it responded "There's no user specified settings to be reset. "

    I have not tried your other suggestions, I am not sure how to enable ipv6, I am running homegroup as a Home network.
     
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  20. 2010/09/08
    Arie

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    First, check to see if IPv6 is enabled. It should by default. Type ipconfig at a command prompt and see if a Link-local IPv6 Address is given.

    If not, you've disable IPv6 at some point. To re-enable:
    1. Right click on the network icon and select Open Network and Sharing Center
    2. In the resulting window, select Change adapter settings
    3. In the Network Connections window, right-click the Local Area Connection and slect Properties
    4. Check the box for Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6)
     
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  21. 2010/09/08
    Arie

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    Here's the original: How to disable certain Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) components in Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008

    And no you're not looking for a sub folder DisabledComponents. You are looking for a DWORD Value DisabledComponents in the \Parameters\ folder.

    The netsh interface ipv4 command doesn't do anything. To do a reset (which isn't necessary) you'd use the command netsh interface ipv4 reset.

    The reply that "There's no user specified settings to be reset" is normal for the default IPv6.
     
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