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"UDF" ISO13346 XP cannot read

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by frayedknotarts, 2009/03/26.

  1. 2009/03/26
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    frayedknotarts Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    XP-Pro SP3 on new HP Athlon dual core 4GB ram

    So: I'm setting up the new computer and want to load some old programs to it to see if it'll run things.

    Get the backup CD's I've burned over the years (using Roxio's Easy CD 4 and 5 on WIN98SE machines) and on the majority of them I either can't see them at all in the "F" CD/DVD drive or I get this message:

    This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system
    that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification.​

    (From surfing about I gather that this is/was the file protocol used for "drag-and-drop" operations when creating CD's under some programmes, but as far as I can remember, I always made up backup CD's using the Roxio "add files" dialog box... perhaps (like my skills) my memory is faulty...)

    Two discs read just fine for me, but the data/programs I want to grab are (what else:rolleyes:) on the other five discs I can't read.

    So, I figgers that in that case I can read 'em on my old 98SE machine, but I get exactly the same message there. :eek:

    So I went online looking for a "UDF converter or reader" which will work under ISO13346 but have had no luck there.

    To make matters worse, the storage machine where I have all these files on the hard drive, and which has been turned off for two years, now refuses to boot up for me... seems the hard drive has died and all I get in the Windows bootup sequence is "unable to read C:/ Data error ", so that's not an option.

    It never rains but it pours.

    I'd like to know if anyone has had this problem under XPProSP3 and perhaps has either a reader program suggestion or a work-around for it.

    If this is in the wrong forum, PLEASE MOVE.

    Your help here will be MOST appreciated!
     
  2. 2009/03/26
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    No joy. Copied it to the hard drive and triedto run from thumbdrive, from c:/, from c:/adaptec and from c:/adaptec/CD Creator 5 folders , got same response: "The Roxio UDFReader has not been detected. "

    I guess that v.5 platinum either didn't have the UDF reader or this update is for a later verzion of Creator.

    Thanks for the shot, though!

    (this is making me even nuttier than usual!)
     
  5. 2009/04/17
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    Anyone?

    Anyone?

    Buehler?

    Buehler?

    :D

    No, really this is making me even crazier than usual!
     
  6. 2009/04/18
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    You might want to try Isobuster, it can read UDF files. You should be able to use this to help recover your files.
     
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    Hi frayedknotarts,

    For what it's probably not worth, if everything else in your hasn't-been-used-for-2 years machine is working OK, freeze your old HDD. Really. Make sure the drive is dry and there's absolutely no moisture. Then carefully and completely wrap the drive in a plastic wrap, put it in a baggie and seal that, too. Then, put the bundle in a paper bag and put the whole thing in the freezer overnight. Remember: Moisture can be fatal to a HDD.
    Then unwrap the drive and put it in the old computer and see if it spins up.

    Do a search engine to see how others got their old dead drives to work. There's lots of ways to skin the cat. And if you're adventurous, take it apart and finger spin the disk (just don't touch it). All you really need is for the drive to work for about a half an hour so you can burn your info to new disks.
     
  8. 2009/04/19
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    Thanks, Chris, but the drive seems to spin up ok (at least it's making noises like it's spinning up)... I will give this a try and for those who want to read a collection of ways to get a dead HDD to work, download THIS, which is a collection of 200 tips (many redundant) from a few years back.
     
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    200!?! You have no idea how comforting it is to know I'm not the only weirdo "out there ". :p

    You've probably already thought of this, but have you tried to hookup the drive as a Slave if you're going to try the freezing method?

    Or, (this is really waaaay out there) have you tried to set the Compatibility Mode to W95 or W98? Hopefully one of the fromages tete will weigh in and say whether this is possible.

    Or, even further "out there ": Replace the battery in the old 'puter and see if it'll boot? Or tried to swap the power plug for another one?
     
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    Hi frayedknotarts,

    I just had a "Duh!" moment. Have you carefully checked the disks that don't work and compared them to any other working CD?

    Disks do go bad "” especially the cheaper ones. If there's any wavy lines or anything that may not seem right, then it's the disks and not the computer. And if the disk is bad, your system may read only a part of it and give you an error message on the rest.

    I trust you've already tried hooking up the old drive as a slave to see if you can salvage anything?
     
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    Frayedknots,

    Did you have any luck with "ISO Buster" ??
     
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    Working on an equally interesting problem with the new computer not seeing the internet cable connection.... will get back to this when I suss that one out
     
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    Close, but no new printer!

    Solved that tonite: see thread HERE

    Tomorrow I'll get back to this little annoying barstard of a problem. I suspect that one reason I can't read 'em is they're "drag-n-drop" CD-RW's and I didn't "finish" them. Have to give that a shot....

    Right now the flu has me by the (.....) and I'm going to bed. (Again.)
     
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    Hi frayedknotarts,

    I deleted the post (evidently it didn't do it) because I saw the same thread in another post.

    And, your CD drive probably came with some sort of burning software. I'd suggest using that instead of the 'drag-n-drop' method.

    Sorry to hear you're under the weather. Plenty of liquids, etc., and remember: no percussive maintenance on your computer no matter how frustrating it may seem! You're just sick. :(
     
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    Au Contraire. Mon Frere! I keep a MAC SE30 for just that sort of explosive release. In fact, I have six of them (they cost $ .25 each).

    VERY satisfying!
     
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    It does the trick just fine! Now I have to decide if I wanna send the $30 for it... I did recover most of the files another way and suspect that there's little left I really want, but that is certainly one of the best proggies I've seen for this purpose.

    Thanks!
     
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    Great... glad it helped!
     
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    It was disappointing tho that the "free" "UDF Reader" proggies I found on the web from Adaptec just did nothing at all..... perhaps I was doing something wrong.
     

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