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How do I uninstall InCD & still use CDs and DVDs erased & formatted with it

Discussion in 'Other PC Software' started by Alicia J, 2008/03/26.

  1. 2008/03/26
    Alicia J Lifetime Subscription

    Alicia J Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I am having a lot of trouble trying to do a backup with Acronis 11 home edition. It keeps telling the device is busy. I think this is a conflict with InCD.
    I went into setup of Nero and modified it to not install InCD. I got a message about needing different drivers for my CD & DVD drives, and that they had been found and an option to okay only.

    Then I went to the windows explorer and it does not recognize the DVD RW discs that I had erased and formatted with InCD. How do I go about getting these discs recognized without InCD installed?

    Why would Nero tell me it had to get different drivers for my CD & DVD drives to work?

    Should I uninstall nero completely and reinstall without InCD rather than modify installation?

    Also, what is the difference in Nero's copy vs burn? I know this has been answered somewhere but I can't find it.
     
  2. 2008/03/28
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    Anyone?
     

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  4. 2008/03/31
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    Hi Alicia, I have just tried a Nero InCD in one of my PC's that has not even Nero Installed and it will read ok and I also just installed a program of that InCD onto that Machine.
    But yes I do believe that Acronis could have a conflict with Nero InCD
     
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    Any ideas on how to get my computer to recognize a CD or DVD (formatted with INCD), with InCD no longer on system?

    Also can someone give me the link for the posting about copy vs burn CD.

    Thanks for your input Hawk22. I appreciate it very much.
     
  6. 2008/04/01
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    In my experience any PC that has not Nero installed can read InCD.
    Windows Explorer will read Nero Formatted disks, if it does not, like in your case then it is because of a conflict between Nero and Explorer. If you clean out Nero completely including using the "Nero clean Utility" you can download from Nero. Your PC will then read the Nero In CD Formatted disks.
     
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    Really? I thought all I would need to do is uninstall InCD. I really did not want to get rid of Nero, just the InCD. Nero can format disks without InCD? Yes?
     
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    Hi Alicia, I will try and explain a bit better.
    IMHO Nero is the best burning Utility I call it that, as Software wise it is not anymore Nero has become very bloated a bit like Norton puts it's nose in everywhere, and that is part of the reason why you are having problems, once you start messing with nero it can become very complicated.
    And no Alicia you don't have to go without nero. After you uninstall and perhaps use the Nero Clean Utility you can reinstall Nero, Nero 7 will not install InCD automatically unlike the older versions in 7 you will have just a clean nero and if you should want to install InCD at a later date you can find out how to from the online nero help desk. I don't know if v.8 is the same.
    This way Windows Explorer will still read your nero formatted CD's and you can use all of neros burning options (except InCD).
    Unfortunately nero 7 is not one of neros best efforts many folks revert back to 6. I will stick with 7 until I get a free copy of 8 with a purchase of a new Burner.
    I hope this helps you out a bit.
    cheers
    hawk22
     
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    I did try using the modify option to uninstall InCD. That didn't resolve anything. After I did that, windows explorer did not recognize my InCD erased and formatted disk. I will uninstall Nero completely, and re install it without InCD. Do you have the latest version 7 build? If not what are you using, if you don't mind me asking.


     
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    Hi Alcia, no I don't have the latest the version I run
    Nero 7.85 Ultra I know there are updates available, but I have them blocked in the Firewall I don't like Automatic updates.
     
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    Can you tell me where I can update my version of Nero 7 Ultra edition.
    This is all I could find on the update page:

    Version7.10.1.2
    Release Date2007-10-10
    File Size332 MB (348462592 bytes)
    MD5 checksumc1dd1dd32180e7608c05aabcbe582d1a

    http://www.nero.com/enu/downloads-nero7-update.php

    I currently have 7.10.12 Version

    XP SP2 Home Edition
     
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    Hi Alicia, well this looks like the latest version that you have as you can see I am only on 8.5 so you should be fine with that. During the Installation when asked to select the Options don't put the tick into InCD and you will have Nero without InCD.
    Good Luck I am sure it will work for you.
    hawk22
     
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    Thanks. I'm going to completely uninstall Nero, and then reinstall with default of InCD not ticked to install.
     
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    Hi, Alicia and hawk22. :)
    FWIW, I recently installed Nero 8 Ultra Edition (from retail box CDs) into both my desktop (XP Home SP2 with Acronis installed) and my ThinkPad T61 laptop (XP Pro SP2 OEM with preinstalled backup software). In both cases, the InCD component was greyed out. I did not have an option to install InCD.

    I do not know whether the Nero installer detected a potentially conflicting application or Nero does not install InCD for USA customers or ... :confused: Have not fully investigated why yet because I did not want to install InCD anyway.

    EDIT: BTW, I uninstalled the preinstalled RecordNow software from my ThinkPad and rebooted before installing Nero. I think I removed all components of preinstalled CD burning software from my Thinkpad anyway. ;) Still have not become familiar with all the stuff that was preinstalled in the ThinkPad.
     
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    Weird Mailman that you didn't get the option to install InCD. I wish I never had! I'm hoping after completely removing my Nero 7 and re installing it without InCD, windows explorer will be able to recognize my InCD erased, formatted and burned DVDs.
     
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    Okay I uninstalled Nero using clean tool. Then I ran my reg cleaner just to make sure. Windows explorer now reads my InCD disk that I had made previously. Now I need to know how to formatt disks. I see an option to erase within Nero, but not one to formatt. I see no option in windows explorer to do either. Any ideas?
     
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    Only InCD can format the CD - DVD's for you.
    If you just want to copy or past and burn you won't need to format. InCD formatted disks are like a large floppy or external HD I just use the Send To menu to backup stuff.
     
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    I have Acronis to back up my data. I'd like to keep using it. So you're saying that the only way to format a disk is with InCD? What do people do who don't have Nero and InCD on their systems do? I like to reuse my DVD-RW disks, so I need a way to format them.
     
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    Hi Alicia, I am not sure now if I am getting a bit confused now or you.
    Nero InCD can Formatt your CD-R+R or DVD + ,- to use as InCD as I mentioned InCD is like a extra large Floppy Disk or HD, you can keep it in your Optical drive and add data to it just like on a floppy it is also called "Packet Writing" you do not need to engage the burner but you need to format the disk to be able to do this and this will take approx. 50 to 100 mb of disk space.
    However if you are using as you say DVD-RW disks and no InCD installed Nero can Erase the disk for you this is not Formatting any RW CD or DVD is simply erasable. You use Nero to copy or paste data to it and if you do not close the disk you can add on files until the disk is full and then erase it and start all over it again. The difference being you need to engage the burner, meaning that after adding the files you need to click on "Burn ".
    You can not mix and match a Formatted InCD with Nero burn, meaning once you do not have InCD installed anymore you can not add files to it anymore it is then read only via Windows Explorer. While InCD is installed and you happen to have a InCD formatted disk in the drive right click on the drive in Explorer and you will see 2 lines one reads "Formatt InCD" the other "Erase InCD ".
    Prior to Nero7 InCD was only possible on RW CD or DVD, not so any more InCD will now Formatt any DVD-R - +R as well not only RW I do use this as RW DVD's are more expensive.
    I have not tested it myself but I strongly believe that a InCD Formatted disk can not be Erased without InCD being installed on the system.
    I hope this will help you see things a bit clearer. If not just holler back and I will try a bit harder again.
    cheers
    hawk22
     
  20. 2008/04/07
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    I don't have Acronis so I don't know exactly how to tell you how to do this but when you are using Acronis to backup, look for an option to back up to a file. I'm not sure of the exact wording it would have but my guess is that you can do it. If so, choose that, then burn the file it creates to a blank CDRW using Nero after the backup is made. The next time you want to make a new backup using that CDRW, use Nero to erase it, backup to a file again, then burn it to the disk again.

    Try searching the help file in Acronis for backing up to file.
     
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    I have the option to formatt a CD|DVD-R with InCD installed. I understand that with InCD you can drag and drop files onto a CD/DVD disk. After I have dragged data onto my CD|DVD-R I have been burning with Nero. You are saying that I don't have to burn the info on this disk? It will stay on the disk because it has been dragged there. I thought that for non rewritables, I can drag and drop without erasing or formatting a disk?

    [ you do not need to engage the burner but you need to format the disk to be able to do this and this will take approx. 50 to 100 mb of disk space.]

    Without InCD installed you can erase CD/DVD RW with Nero. But you can't formatt it. How can you use the disk without erasing and formatting? Or don't you need to formatt, simply erase disk to use over.

    [However if you are using as you say DVD-RW disks and no InCD installed Nero can Erase the disk for you this is not Formatting any RW CD or DVD is simply erasable].

    Sorry, I'm so confused. :confused:
     

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