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changing from a ide hard drive to a sata hard drive


i want to change my present hard drive which is an ide drive to an sata 150 hard drive. i want to copy the whole drive to the new one. do i have to run the xp setup cd to install 3rd party drivers and if so does that mean i will have to do a repair install of xp. i have sata drivers on my motherboard cd and i have disc wizard from seagate to copy the drive. what is the correct procedure to do this.

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If it was me, I'd backup my data, & start from scratch (fresh install).

But yea, you could probably copy all data over & then do a repair install of WinXP.

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Another point - you may well need to install the RAID driver - even though you do not intend to use RAID. There should be a facility on your mobo CD to copy the necessary files to a floppy. Then when you boot from the XP CD keep an eye on the bottom of the blue screen - first or second blue screen for the message 'Press F6 to install 3rd party drivers' - or words to that effect. Be sure to press F6 and keep a careful eye on the screen for an instruction to insert the floppy disk.

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if i were to do a fresh install could i then move all of my programs and such through windows explorer to the new drive or is there a better way to do that.

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motts,

If you do a 'clean' (fresh) install, you will have to re-install all your programs. You can copy any 'data' file (i.e. documents, photos, mp3s etc) from the old HD. If you use the 'disc wizard' (you mentioned earlier) then everything will be 'cloned' to the new hard drive and you won't have to re-install your programs. Just remember if you are having any problems with Windows, they will be moved to the new HD also. Whichever method you choose, just be sure to back up your data files.

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Since the two hard disks are fundamentally different (PATA & SATA), the cloning method is NOT going to work. Since WinXP cannot detect SATA out of the box (as of now), you won't be able to boot into Windows since there is no HDD as far as Windows is concerned.

Best option - Install Windows on SATA, plug in PATA hard disk and copy your data onto new hard disk or even better, keep your data on PATA and let SATA be your OS & backup disk or other way round (Keep pagefile on SATA if you are using SATA 2).

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tell me this. Is the speed difference worth it? i am not having any problems with xp.

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Originally Posted by motts
tell me this. Is the speed difference worth it? i am not having any problems with xp.
As far as I have seen, there is no visible difference between PATA and SATA -I, but SATA -II is another story altogether. If you use SATA - 2 HDD and your motherboard supports SATA - 2, it beats PATA.

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As far as I have seen, there is no visible difference between PATA and SATA -I, but SATA -II is another story altogether. If you use SATA - 2 HDD and your motherboard supports SATA - 2, it beats PATA.
I have compared PATA and SATA-I hard disks and I agree that there is no difference. They are the same hard disks with different intefaces.

When it comes to SATA-II, I have no personal experience but if they do significantly outperform PATA, then I believe it has nothing to do with the interface but that the SATA-II hard disks are of a later generation with higher platter density and other improvements.

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Originally Posted by rsinfo
Since WinXP cannot detect SATA out of the box (as of now), you won't be able to boot into Windows since there is no HDD as far as Windows is concerned.

Best option - Install Windows on SATA, plug in PATA hard disk and copy your data onto new hard disk or even better, keep your data on PATA and let SATA be your OS & backup disk or other way round (Keep pagefile on SATA if you are using SATA 2).
It depends on the sata drive and which xp install version. For example, an xp install with sp2 integrated will detect many sata drives and one will not need to load additional drivers.

I have been using WD 200 GB stat2 drives recently on systems I have been building and xp install detects & loads the appropriate drivers right away during the install.

sata2 is much much faster than sata1 or pata. I commented on this in an earlier post. For example, ghosting a partition is almost 80% faster than it used to be for me. I can image a 20 GB boot partition with 3.5 GB used space in just under 1 minute & 30 seconds using FAST compression in norton ghost. And restoring is equally faster.

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Originally Posted by TonyT
It depends on the sata drive and which xp install version. For example, an xp install with sp2 integrated will detect many sata drives and one will not need to load additional drivers.

I have been using WD 200 GB stat2 drives recently on systems I have been building and xp install detects & loads the appropriate drivers right away during the install.
TonyT, which motherboard were you using? In my 2+ years experience I have yet to see a SATA chipset which is detected out of the box with Win XP SP2. Maybe you were using SATA connector & HDD but were operating in IDE mode(some motherboards do support this configuration).

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I have an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium and the nVIDIA nForce4 SATA controller is detected by WinXP (SP2) without the need to add drivers.

Now if you want to use RAID, that's another question, then you have to load the drivers.

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I have an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium and the nVIDIA nForce4 SATA controller is detected by WinXP (SP2) without the need to add drivers.

Now if you want to use RAID, that's another question, then you have to load the drivers.
Arie, I have used ASUS A8N-SLI Premium motherboard but the controller was NOT detected by XP SP2. Are you sure you are not running SATA in IDE mode?

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Hmmm... its been a couple of months ago I installed this... And I've been installing WinXP / Vista on several systems (IDE/SATA/RAID), so it could be that I've got my memory of things a bit.... well, you know

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thanks for all your help. i can tell you this, i got a heck of a lot more replies than i ever got with xp newsgroups

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