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Old 21st January 2005   #16
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Originally Posted by BillyBob
I think we are really dealing with personal preference more than anything here.
Hi BB,

That's true up to a point, my concern is with a partition that only has the OS on it - no user data as such, meaning media files - text files - DB files and so on.

Started thinking about this last Summer when I decided that I needed imaging software. Since then, have switched out my old C drive for a new one and now use that old C as an external USB HD for backups. Want to and have a few times created images of my two internal drives, both of which have an OS on them.

Have come to the conclusion that it makes no sense in imaging user data - normal backup procedures are more convenient and faster. Have also come to the conclusion that drive imaging is not a substitute for System Restore when used for short term roll backs, makes no sense to roll back back a bad install for instance with an image file.

So what I'm going to end up with is OS partitions on Drive C and D and those partitons are what I was asking about. Both these drives are 40 Gig drives.

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charlesvar I have the System Restore turned off and use imaging exclusively for rollbacks. It's quicker for me. I use Drive Image 2002 and it only takes about 3 minutes to reinstall an image. It takes about 5 to System Restore. I keep about three images on my hard drive so I can go back further if I need to.

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Hi Ray,

The times are going to be variable, doesn't take me 5 minutes for SR - it'll take even less time once I've established the OS only partitions on the drives.

Still of the opinion that there is a XP tool for OS roll backs and don't see why it can't be made use of and keep the image for something serious; imaging and SR are not mutually exclusive which is the point I'm trying to make.

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The ideal size for an OS partition depends entirely on how you set up your computer. Do you have your Programs folder on the OS partition, or is it located elsewhere? Do you use System Restore? Do you use a Paging file and, if so, is it located on the OS partition, or elsewhere? How often do you empty your Recycle Bin?

I've experimented with OS partitions of varying sizes during the nearly three years I've been using XP Pro, with a variety of configurations, but my Programs (presently totalling 7.1GB) have always been located on a separate partition ... not necessarily because it's a good idea, but because I've always done it that way.

The OS (XP Pro) partition on my 100GB HD is presently 9.76GB, of which 5.86 are in use. The Windows folder is 2.69GB, the Paging file is 1.53GB, and Documents and Settings is .4GB, totalling 4.62GB. The remaining space is used by System Restore, the Recycler folder and a few other small files.

So, if I turned off System Restore, moved the Paging file to another partition, and emptied the Recycle Bin regularly, I could easily cut my OS partition to 4GB (as long as I kept the Programs folder on another partition).

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I am freezing my butt of and waiting ( not with pleasure ) for the big SNOW so I need something to warm me up. so here goes.

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by quackball But it seems here people are just fine with the slightly smaller GB drives - guess they can just manage it all better.
Would you please tell me why a larger drive is any better than a small one ? Other than having more room to use if needed of course.

The 80gig drive in this XP Pro machine ia COPY of 40gig drive as a Win98 SE system. The only real change is that it has had XP Pro put over 98SE.

The 40gig in the 98SE machine is STILL DOING THE SAME JOB. ( as this one )It is a bit slower and may not handle some of the newer software but that is MB, CPU and even maybe the OS. But certainly NOTHING to do with the HD.

As to the answer to the Question " What is the best size ?" I do not think there is a real answer to that. It depends on too many things. Starting right out with personal preference. Followed by how the USER wants to set and use his/her system.

Some like a large HD. I would rather have two small ones. One for normal use and the 2nd for storage. I only have one HD. But everything that really needs saving in on CDs. That way I can use them on any machine. So the CD is more or less my 2nd HD. ( and portable at that )

There are several different ideas in this thread. AND EVERY ONE of them works for THE USER and/or the way the USER uses the system.

I do not think there is any such thing as " once size fits all " or " which size is best " here. Way, Way too many variables involved.

THE USER BEING THE BIGGEST.

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The ideal size for an OS partition depends entirely on how you set up your computer. Do you have your Programs folder on the OS partition, or is it located elsewhere? Do you use System Restore? Do you use a Paging file and, if so, is it located on the OS partition, or elsewhere? How often do you empty your Recycle Bin?
THANK YOU.

U & me wase writin at the same time it appears.

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Another opinion.


I'm in the 9GB school; and I don't install 3rd party programs, or even msOffice in either of two system partitions because I like them small for Ghosting images. XP has about 4GB in use, and Win98SE about 3+ and the images are only 2+GB so fit both easily on DVDs.

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My new computer came with XP home installed as well as other apps. HD is 150 Gig. I did not know that you could partitiion the c:\ drive without having to format and start anew. On my old computer I had drives c-g and I loved having my drives organized for different types of software. Can this be done on the new one without formatting or messing up the OS?

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Yeah Ann, You'll be able to easily do that using Partition Magic. It's not free but very reasonable considering. Reasonably safe and user friendly. $10 on sale!

The free alternatives are not for the weak of heart.


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Ok, done the deed on one of the OS drives:

So ended up taking Christer's and Pete's advice: split the 40 gig partition into 12gb for the OS and the rest for the new partition.

Did it from the other OS, no question about having to shut processes down or having to do it in DOS. Handy Dandy to have two OS's, especially for stuff like this.

Having never done this before, it was a heart stopping moment when it came time to boot that OS up, will it boot up and how will it react?

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Hi Charles!

Good news is always welcome ...... ...... I take it as You're running the "messed with" operating system!

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Thanks Christer and especially for your advice.

I take it as You're running the "messed with" operating system!

Yep, never missed a beat.

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