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Old 30th November 2002   #1
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can't 'see' second hard drive in Windows Explorer


Did I get some bad advice? I replaced my old master (C drive with a larger one. I installed Windows XP on it. I formatted the new drive with NTSF leaving the slave drive fat32. Now I cannot see the contents of the slave (D) drive. Device Manager 'sees' the second drive and 'Disk Management' in 'Administrative Tools' sees the fat32 drive as 'active' and healthy'. Did I get some bad advice or do I still have something to do in order for Windows XP to see the old second hard drive. It's got ALL my backup data on it......

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Strange things can happen when you boot two hard drives that have OS on them and the drives are set active.

Do you have the jumpers set properly. I would assume you would want the new drive jumpered as a master and the old one set as a slave or cable select. Do you have the drives plugged in to the proper position on the data cable? (Master on end, slave on center)

It is possible that the Partition Table has suffered and will need editing. Go here and download the free Partition Table Editor from Powerquest. It's a zip file but contains only one file so just open it on your Desktop. Run the executable and take note of how both of your drive partitions are labeled and post it back here. All I need to know is what type, such as type 4, type 7, type 12, etc.

Do not change anything in there just yet.

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Thanks......I'll get back with you on what I find...Dusterpilot

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Downloaded and ran the Partition Editing software. The No. 1 (master) is labeled a No. 7 disk while the second (slave) drive is labeled a No. 44.
P.S. I rechecked my cable and pin configuration and it is correct. (Master on end of cable).
Could the fact that the cable is an 40 pin ATA 100 cable have anything to do with this? (both drives are ATA 100 capable).

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Easily overlooked, but does the slave drive have a drive letter in Disk Management?`

I've experienced once or twice that either a slave drive isn't issued a drive letter automagically, or that it conflicts with a removable disk drive (such as a Compact Flash Card reader) - if that's the problem you can just right click on the misbehaving drive and choose "Change Drive Letter and Paths..."

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And the simple things, too:

If you have a tweaker, like TweakUI, be sure the drive is not hidden with that app.

If you have altered any XP services, like Logical Disk Manager, be sure they are enabled (if unsure, look in the Services Help file for the default configuration).

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The slave drive is labeled 'D'.. and is listed as 'Active' and 'healthy' in the 'Disk Management'. There is a removable 'drive' that's listed. It's the Compact Flash Card Reader on my HP 7550 Printer. I renamed the removable drive to drive 'G'. (E and F are my CD rom and CD burner respectively). Even the Device Manager sees both drives. This is a drive that contains all my backup files and is a fat32. I was under the impression XP could 'see' a fat32 drive with only one partition. I"m really STUMPED!! I hate to have to repartition and format the drive as I'll lose all the hundreds of files.

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Use the Partition Editor and change the drive label from type 44 to type 0b (zero b) and confirm the change. Close out and reboot. You should then see the drive.

btw, What size is this missing drive and how many partitions did it have? If it's over 2 Gigs, label it 0c (zero c). I shouldn't have assume it was 2 Gig or under. No harm will result either way.

The change is made by clicking the cursor in the drive type box where you see the 44. Then click on the radio button that says "Set Type." That will give you the menu with all possible types to choose from. Select the proper type and click OK. Close out and reboot. Don't forget to hit the "Save changes" button before closing out. Pray that it works or else you may have lost your data. The only remaining hope would be to try booting it as a stand alone master once more.

This would not be the first time someone has lost all data on a drive because there were two drives connected that were both set active and had viable OS's on them. The correct way is to boot the new master first and let it become initialized then shut down and install the slave drive. If you did it that way, you're probably ok. If not you are at risk.

Good luck. I'm headin' for the goosehair. I'll check you tomorrow morn.


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ZEPHYR: IT WORKED!!!! I utililized the Partition Editor and changed the slave drive to 0c (zero c) since the drive is a 40Gb hard drive and had over 40% utilized as backup. Your instructions were distint and precise. After seeing your post, it took all of two minutes to fix the problem.
I'll post this into my 'memory bank' in case I ever run into this problem again.....Thanks again.......Dusterpilot

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One more step to put it fully to rest. You will need to disconnect the master drive and leave the secondary connected. Boot to a Win98 boot disk and from the A:\prompt type FDISK /MBR and press enter. That's all, shut down and reconnect the master drive and you should be good to go. The trauma that the drive has been through has damaged the Master Boot Record and this last step will repair it by rewriting it from the backup copy that DOS makes when it installs the drive initially. If you don't do this step, you'll experience troubles later.

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Fly low and slow! Or is it "stick back, kick left"


In order to make this thread more complete and helpful to those who may follow, I'll post a link that identifies most partition types. It is frequently updated and hopefully will be around for a while. Partition Type Information


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