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Resolved Delete INFCACHE failes to restart Setup

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    loninappleton

    loninappleton Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hello again,

    The error message:


    The File 'asms' on Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 1 CD is needed*

    Here is the background on the question:

    I was attempting to do the F6 install to a Repair routine in XP to get SATA/AHCI for a recently installed PCI to SATAA extender card (more SATA ports.).

    I had my floppy properly made (after a few false starts) and that ran in
    Repair Setup ok. A second error was encountered which has to do with 'asms' file missing.

    I looked up what that meant and to clear that there was another instruction to do Shift F10 and change some registry entries for the F6 to complete. I could not follow the instruction but may attempt to do so in the future (hive this and %windows% something something was too confusing and just gave repeated errors.)

    I tried a plain repair install but now the 'asms' was preventing continuing with the install.

    Now to the point: I saw your thread on deleting cache (now closed) which had worked one other time. But the asms error would not budge and any 'exit' and continue attempt just had XP window say this is an unrecoverable error and proceeded to shut down.

    This is really worrisome. It looks like there is no solution. How does anyone ever get F6 to complete successfully with these sorts of gotchas?

    Well, a bit long but I needed to explain the steps of how I got here and why.
     
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    First BACK UP your registry. Start\Run\(type in run box) regedit click Ok. Navigate this path H_KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-080022BE-10318}. In the right pane delete UpperFilters And LowerFilters. Follow the same path in ControlSet001 and ControlSet002 and delete the same UpperFilters and LowerFilters Values Pane.
     
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    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Hi

    I had this occur doing an install of XP Pro and this is the link I used: "The file 'Asms' on Windows XP Professional CD-ROM is needed" error message when you install Windows XP

    Read the entire page and use the appropriate method. Neil.
    P.S. I remembered that when the error occurs - you can access Command by Shift + F10 then get to your i386 File which contains the ASMS you require.
    Is your XP CD Genuine? Make sure your CD is clean and the Player is clean. No extra peripherals are plugged in when doing this. ie. Printers or USB drives.
     
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    loninappleton Inactive Thread Starter

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    Yes I even printed that out but didn't know what a hive was or what they were talking about.

    Right now I have more problems than a repair install can handle-- latest one (I don't want to start another topic) is the repair install does not go through and a continuous boot cycle takes place. It gets past the serial id info and such, installs the network, tries to reboot and the loop starts. Just before the loop it's as if a BSOD will be displayed but then winks out.

    I have no idea how things like Press F1 to continue get on the POST screen for BIOS and turning it off can never be found again. No BIOS entry looks remotely like it. But I don't think that is a cause. I have a different rig running smoothly and am writing on that.

    I have done fixmbr and fix boot until I am blue.

    Does a disc such as Ultimate Boot CD make this any easier? I am running out of spare drives that still have my content. Getting the Repair routine right took me long enough. Now something else is preventing Windows XP to start.

    These have to be boot up problems.

    If you have read this far I may have a starting point:

    I selected Safe Mode and the Safe Mode stops at a file called ****giveiosys
    so something is not being found and I have no idea what to give to iosys. I think that was the last spare drive where this error was reported.

    Only thing I can think of is to reset CMOS.
     
  6. 2014/07/27
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    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Here's a link to an article about your problem:Installing Windows XP With F6 AHCI/RAID Drivers From USB Only
    http://www.prime-expert.com/article...p-with-f6-ahci-raid-drivers-from-usb-only.php
    There is available also on that site a Download for EBCD. Neil.

    When I installed an IDE to SATA converter to my old XP Pro comp, it came with a Mini CD with the Drivers for either 32 bit or 64 bit OS. The card went into a PCi slot and the unit connected to the HD and I had no problems. XP handles SATA but why did yoou want to install ACHI?
     
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    AHCI though not mandatory would be for an SSD.

    I have one thumb drive but that was a briar patch of problems to format. I think that's where the F1 (see previous) on the POST screen came from and now resides forever.

    You will have to have patience with me on this. The 'forensics' are complicated but needlessly so.

    The completely generic PCI card had no driver disk. I have tried to get more mass storage ports first as IDE (a card from Startech who were very helpful and eventually got that going.) But DVD recorders are now SATA and I wanted to eliminate my old noisy Lite-On.

    While getting the F6 drivers at BIOSTAR _and_ wanting to move to Win 7
    which I have but am only practicing with, I upgraded all drivers and BIOS for that change.

    There is a separate question I have to take to HDD Guru about their Raw Copy Tool program which I began to use since it runs from disk.

    I think that is all of the variables in play.

    I mentioned I have multiple backups-- spares-- which now have various problems from either installing F6 or repairing (trying to get anything back to normal.)

    Today I am going to inventory the problems: which HDs are going through that give.io.sys boot cycle and which are caught in the complicated 'asms' file error.

    Late last night I put on my working Win 7 disk to examine the faulty drives for their content. What Win 7 sees is the root only and not "my Documents" Download etc. Properties shows that these disks are not wiped (nearly full) but the content is not available.

    That is complicated but as complete a picture as I can give.

    I believe that the 'asms' file error would be easiest to get through, but anything stopping that Setup program is a nightmare.

    Inventory first. I have to leave the bothersome PCI card in while doing all this.

    As always I appreciate the help but I'm not doing it round the clock. Will write back when I have more data.
     
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    Why not fill out the system specs for the machine in question? It would make it a lot easier to isolate you problem. If you can remember what they are.
     
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    loninappleton Inactive Thread Starter

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    Ok,

    I have that as a hot key for my more recent MSI build,

    but here we have the Biostar MCP6PB M2+
    2 Gb memory
    using the onboard video
    plus the various installed HDs
    which I will enumerate in my inventory.

    To cut the suspense, in reviewing these drives a Maxtor 320Gb IDE survived my messing around and I can review its content. What I apparently can't do is view the content from a Win 7 boot drive. These should be both NTFS.

    I also have as a Main boot drive in the XP group which is a Western Digital 320 Gb Black and a WD Blue 320. I try to keep enough redundancy in case of an error in cloning.

    The remaining problems are the 'asms' registry job on one
    and the remaining drive has the giveio.sys boot loop error.

    I will work on the asms error first and hope that the repair install will then complete. At least the problem disks are down to two.
     
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    Can you get into safe mode in XP or no. Did you change anything in the BIOS. Did you try uninstalling the Extender card then trying to see if you can possibly boot the machine without it.
     
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    loninappleton Inactive Thread Starter

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    @SuperGeek

    Yes, Safe Mode is available on the giveio.sys problem drive.

    I intend to do what I can if I find Speed Fan on there if I can get to it. Safe Mode only runs up to the giveio.sys line of the Startup routine. It may be possible to locate Speedfan and correct using search from my working HD. Safe Mode does not complete to its desktop screen.


    The remaining difficulty is with the asms Fatal Error on the remaining unit.


    But back to the initial question: what is del INFCACHE.1 supposed to do? It cannot correct so-called 'Fatal Errors.'
     
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    I will see what INFCACHE.1 is about but at the moment I'm still preparing to do the 'asms' registry change and without mishap.

    Since I do not know what asms is, the goal is disk recovery rather than PCI card installation success, I intend to do the following:

    To complete the registry change I will load the proper drive, load the Setup disk and re-attach the floppy drive in case there are any more writes done from it (that is a caution on F6 routines in the instruction.) I intend to leave the troublesome card off. Does this sound like the best path to disk recovery?

    Needless to say I am anxious about doing any of this and pooching the content on the HD. For this reason I am going very slowly.
     
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    loninappleton Inactive Thread Starter

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    I'll proceed with the PCI card out.
     
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    Sounds good.
     
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    First to back up the registry:

    What is the method?

    Second The HD loads itself as "D" repeatedly and I don't know if that produces errors. It is the only drive attached. I've never seen this before and it is totally confusing. I want to blow my top.

    The M$ link given contained the line after entering the 'hive'

    %Windir%\system32\Config\System.sav

    I saw no System.sav and so I consider that I have to have a line by line tutorial with no 'shorthand ".

    First the Regedit backup.
     
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    Update,

    I found Import and Export under the Registry File tab and made a save (I think) of the name registryOLD.reg

    If that is done that answers the first question.

    Next, using your quoted material I got down to the long file called ****10318 which is highlighted.

    In the 'right hand pane' there is only a single line called "default. "

    I'm trying not be totally helpless about this but as an example, when you said 'save' the registry with no mention of Export as the method, all this becomes a jumble.

    Where is registryOLD.reg kept so I can confirm I did that?

    I still want to save this HD without having to wipe it.
     
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    On the registry backup:

    Re-opening Export showed that regeditOLD.reg was saved to My Documents and can be retrieved as it could found using Import-- I guess and would go there by default.

    I still don't know any more steps involving the 'right pane' and upper or lower anything.

    My functioning boot drive when loaded shows up as C: in the normal manner.
    The fact that this asms problem drive is always seen as D:\, I don't get.

    Other thing is the Regedit Window can see my files in the root of "D" but no content on the rest of the drive. The drive cannot be seen by my good one as D: or anything else and so manually retrieving my content is not possible.


    That catches me up. I will wait for replies and proceed tomorrow
     
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    Do not try any suggestions unless you go back to basics and make sure your comp is in its Default State which you can set in BIOS. Have just ONE Hard drive installed (connected) NO peripherals (Printers/external storage/web cams/USB hubs etc). Use onboard video and then see whether you can get it going. Neil.
     

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