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Old 17th December 2008   #16
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Harry, christer's advice is good but there may be slight (but problematic) variations between his and my advice. The key is not to erase your current (win98) drive. I'd suggest you follow either christers advice or mine, but trying to use both will cause problems.

Both our solutions follow a similar track but pathnames could leave you stuck in a canoe without a paddle.

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I'll certainly leave the command lines to you - I am still in awe of your expertise. After looking at the very first post, it appears that whoever did the initial setup made a Win98 folder on the root of C: and copied everything there. That's exactly the way I used to do 98 Installations and it would change the directory you are commenting. Just a thought for your consideration.
Rockster, thanks for the vote of confidence but you should note I recommended copying the folder to the new drive as \windows\cabs.

I was not suggesting that was the source

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And going by Centurions way would lead you to a pirated or cracked version which would be illegal. Windows does not come as a download.
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And going by Centurions way would lead you to a pirated or cracked version which would be illegal. Windows does not come as a download.
To be fair, I believe the actual source of the software is not legally a problem. As long as you have a valid license to use the software it shouldn't matter where you obtained the setup files. However, dubious sources can cause problems... Whilst cracking what else did they do

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wildfire,
there are a few "unknowns" in this situation.

When I install (read installed - a long time ago) a Win98SE system, I always copy the setup files from the CD to the HDD. In order to not "confuse" the installer, I choose a folder name that isn't normally created during the installation. Often, I create the folder on a partition other than C: (a backup partition with drivers and such as well). As far as I can remember, the installation has never created the "windows\cabs" folder but linked to my copied files.

I quote harryt:
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The seller put the cd files eg. made a backup of the win98 cd on my Hard drive.
In this situation, if the system was installed from a CD and afterwards, the files were copied as a backup, I think the files will exist in two places. I would use the copied files, not the files created by the installer.

If some step(s) in my procedure has/have slipped my teflon coated mind, don't hesitate to correct me.

Let's wait for harryt and his comments.

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Christer,

My procedure is almost identical, but I tend to use the same partition in a subfolder of windows (ie windows\cabs). The result being the original setup files are on the existing partition and no need to worry about lost CD's or deleted partitions when installing device drivers etc...

As I said, yours is a slightly different approach but no more wrong nor right than mine. Yes it is harryt's decision.

Edit: After a second read I think I know what you mean...

During the installation with my method, setup will point out that "C:\windows" already exists and suggest an install to "C:\windows.001".

If harryt ignores the warning and verifies he wants "C:\windows" as the destintation (i.e. delete that .001) he won't have a problem. Without being bigheaded I've done this hundreds of times and it has never failed me yet and 98 hasn't changed in the last few years has it


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a confused installer can easily confuse the user if he/she isn't fully awake. That's why I name that folder "WIN98" and put it in the root of C: or in a different partition.

Another thing I do is to substitute the ME version of the defragger (one single file) for the 98SE version. It's less of a disaster ... ... don't you agree?

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a confused installer can easily confuse the user if he/she isn't fully awake. That's why I name that folder "WIN98" and put it in the root of C: or in a different partition.
The installer won't be confused, though the instalee maybe. That's why I suggested either your or my advice but not both

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Another thing I do is to substitute the ME version of the defragger (one single file) for the 98SE version. It's less of a disaster ... ... don't you agree?
I get your point but suggesting my idea is part of ceMEnt is a bit much isn't it

Edit: Perhaps I didn't, you have PM.


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Rockster, thanks for the vote of confidence but you should note I recommended copying the folder to the new drive as \windows\cabs.
I was not suggesting that was the source
Color me blind. I guess that's what happens when practicing this Evelyn Wood stuff.


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This thread can be closed.

Before it is closed, I just wanted to place some information here.

I was able to fix the HD issue. Some people, I'm sure will encounter it somewhere.
Basically there is a overlay on the drive and your bios might not pick it up.

Please see Zander's post here: WIN98 HD Issue

I went with the floppy loading after it asks for it, and it worked fine for me afterwards.

Hope this helps someone out for future references.

PS: Thanks to ALL that helped me with this problem. You guys are true hero's

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