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Hello,
Re: WIN 98SE

My harddisk (8 GB) is partioned as follows:

C:\ used 1,43 Gb > available 2,16 Gb
D:\ used 25,7 Mb > available 792 Mb
E:\ used 940 Mb > available 2,67 Gb

I have: Powerquest, Ghost, Partition Magic, Acronis and Drive Image, however
not the guts to rearrange the partitions all by myself; I need some who guides
me through the various steps.

I should like to have partition D:\ added tot C:\
Will partition E:\ automatically become D:\ ? F:\Iomega and G:\CDRom automatically become E en F

The present partitions have been created by my incorrectly dealing with
Drive Image. One of the partitions, now both named BACKUP, was mentioned
to be something with NEW in it.

Main point: I cannot afford to lose HD data.

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I hesitate to answer these types of questions because is something goes wrong I don't want to be blamed. That said, this should be fairly simple. Is there anything on the d: drive that you want to keep? If so, copy it to the e: or the c: drive. Then use partition magic to delete the d: drive, then use PM to resize the c: drive using the unused space left over from the deleted partition. All of the drive letters after c will be automatically changed. This (drive letter changes) may or may not cause some problems but if it does they can usually be fixed fairly easily.

If there is anything on the drive that you don't want to lose, you should back it up one way or another. I've never had a problem with PM but you never know. Things can go wrong and it's best to be prepared for it.

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Zander,

1) you are not going to be blamed or whatsoever, as I am the only one who is responsible for the PC. Even if an error is made on someone else's advise.

2) It will be no problem to put the two items now on partition D:\ back to C:\
where they originally came from.

3) within the next few hours I am going to install Partition Magic (again)
and if I don't understand the actions to be taken, I'll contact you in order to prevent calamities.

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Hi Zander,

Mission successfully completed.

Just one remark: the F:\ and G:\ did not become E:\ and F:\
Is it necessary to change them and how can it be done, if possible.

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That's odd. Unless you have a second drive in the system with a primary partition on it they should change. I haven't used my PM for a long time now so I don't remember but it seems to me you can use it to assign the drive letters. I could be wrong but I'd have a look. Can't say for sure right now because I don't have PM installed right now. I always run it from floppies so there's no real reason for me to have it installed. Let us know what you find.

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Zander,

I recently posted a reply, but I don't see it in the forum.
Re: labels F and G did not change into E and F
I found out that between C and D and F and G there is the known yellow
file icon. This item is completely empty and cannot be deleted.

I now remember it has been created by my maltreating Drive Image at the time, when trying to split Windows98SE and put it on 2 CDRoms.

Maybe you know of a means to get rid off it.

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I am a user of Acronis Disk Director. When you are in the program, right click on a drive that you would rather have a different drive letter, go to Advanced and choose Change Letter. I assume other similar programs have this kind of option available, it may even also be accessed by the right click option on each drive/partition.

If you already have a drive using the letter you want another to be, you will first have to change that drive's letter to another one, and then change the one you want to use its letter for, to it. Play musical drives until they are as you want using this method. Of course you shouldnt change C drives letter and probably wont be allowed to anyway. Ideally you should restart your PC after each and every drive letter change before chainging another or using the PC after any changes.

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I have been watching this thread and see some possible problems.

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For yours and the systems well being it may just as well they did not change. Especially if there does exist programs that are being used on them.

The drive letters may change. But the shorctcuts and the Registry entires MAY NOT

If you have something like Norton Windoctor ( not 100% reliable either ) to help find and give you the capabilities of correcting items you may find AT LOT of stiff that will not run. Or at least not properly.

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Another thought just popped up.

If the partitons did have stuff on them and the letters did in fact change;

ANY AND ALL BACKUPS made of anything on F: & G: ( which became E: & F: ) would be USELESS.

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I just printed this out and found my reading glasses.

I now see that the only problem might be with the former E:

F: & G: appear to be CDROM drives. But even then any programs set to maybe get info from or run backups to or from them might be effected.

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Main point: I cannot afford to lose HD data.
Any time you start messing with HD partitions you take A BIG CHANCE of doing just that.

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BillyBob and Dez B; you are right; it's just about that empty yellow icon, which
cannot be deleted and standing between C and D and the Iomega and
CDRom drive letters.

I am going to reinstall Drive Image and see what is said about this empty icon.
I'll let you know.

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Hello,

The present partitions are: C and D
F = Iomega and G = CDRom

No mention is made of the yellow empty icon between the two sets.

Just a remark about the possible dangers if we succeed to do away with
the useless icon, somehow:
From Partition Magic I learned that if the usual procedure could had been
followed, the Drive letters F and G would have been changed automatically in
E and F.
So, why is it extra dangerous to change F and G "manually in some other
way than by PM", if someone knows a means to delete the yellow icon ?

If no solution available, we leave things as they are.

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C:\ used 1,43 Gb > available 2,16 Gb
D:\ used 25,7 Mb > available 792 Mb
E:\ used 940 Mb > available 2,67 Gb


???? How can you have 2.67GB available on a 940MB partition ? A miss print ?

These are Hard Drive partitions. And I take it this is an older machine when it only has that size HD.

F: & G: are CDROMS.
Even if you do combine D: with C: you are not going to have any more apace available.

Am I correct that E: is the one that appears as yellow in PM ? Are we talking about a machine such as what we call an OEM machine ? Like Sony, Packard Bell, Compaq etc.

If so then E: may be a special partition required by the system. ( my guess right now ) And if you did get rid of it things just mught not work so well.

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So, why is it extra dangerous to change F and G "manually in some otherway than by PM", if someone knows a means to delete the yellow icon ?
In order to do that you would need to get rid of one of the HD partitions. So if you were able to combine C: and D: and remove D: it would make that special partition that is now E: become D: And then the CDROMS would be E: & F: This is all true.

If you move things from D: to C: then unless ALL references to anything on D: were changed some programs may not work and/or you would get error messages saying Can't be found.. At that time you could point it to the new location on C:. BUT, there may be MANY references in the Registry that do not get changed.

In the past I have moved stuff from one drive to another. Sometimes it was a succesful move. Other time I had other words for it.

Sometimes I could move things and reinstall to the new location and all was fine. Other times things did not go well at all. It sure as heck is not a cut-n-dried procedure.

Now to the CDROMS. SOMETIMES we can change their lettering and programs that use them still work. Other times ???? I have had that go both ways.

Bottom line. ( at least mine ) It is not a good idea to start changing drive lettering ( adding/removing partitions especially in the middle ) after the system is once setup. As everything above will ( or should ) change too. And this can ( and has ) cause(ed) problems.

Question.

Can you use Windows Explorer and see what is on E: ? I believe that is the one I want ? If not, then I believe it may well be a special hidden partition.

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Hi BillyBob,

Re: PC is a clone > IBM compatible

1) the partition sizes are: used + available = total capacity

2) the empty yellow icon is present in the Explorer after:
Backup D > CDRom F; CDRom G; Printers; Control Panel; "yellow icon"; External Access etc

3) the plus sign is in front of it

4) left clicking: no reaction
5) right clicking > menu opens, containing: Unfold > Explore > Open > Powerdesk > View > Delete
6a) clicking Explore shows Desktop
6b) clicking Open shows Start menu

6c) clicking Powerdesk shows PowerDesk menu
in the right colums, at the same as mentioned in item 5 there is, guess what, a yellow icon with the text DLL behind it.
Clicking it, causes the left column to be split between DESKTOP and MY DOCUMENTS by about 5 or 6 cm. white space.
Further activities in Powerdesk are no more possible.
Clicking START (down left) makes the Powerdesk Menu disappear.
If I don't click the yellow icon + dll, Powerdesk functions correctly.

6d) clicking View shows the Startmenu again
6e) clicking Delete shows Startmenu again

Please mind, that above Powerdesk is not the same program as Powerdesk
Partition Magic. However it is the same company.

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