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ATTN: Netscape 7.xx Users

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by Ramona, 2006/02/01.

  1. 2006/02/01
    Ramona

    Ramona Geek Member Alumni Thread Starter

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    As I have repeated frequently, Netscape 7.xx is now obsolete, defunct, kaput! I would urge anyone using the Netscape 7 browser to move on to a newer, more secure, and updated browser.

    I understand you hate to give up the familiarity of Netscape, however, you won't have to entirely give it up with SeaMonkey 1.0.

    SeaMonkey is based on the Mozilla 1.8.0.1 source code, has none of the AOL components contained in Netscape, and is very stable.

    All security vulnerabilities, and bugs contained in Netscape 7.xx versions have been addressed in this browser.

    You will see little to no difference in appearance

    Improved speed - does not have the sluggishness of Netscape

    SeaMonkey will pick up your Netscape Profile, if that is the only browser you have installed.

    I have used SeaMonkey off and on since Version 1.0a, and have been very impressed with the suite. If you have a mind set for a suite, then move to SeaMonkey 1.0, and do yourself a favor!

    Onward and upward, my friends! :D
     
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    Westside

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    I recommend Seamonkey1.0, except that it is a bit too advanced to get compatible extentions. For some reason the 1.8.0.1 source code has caused havoc on most extentions, but the memory usage is excellent, 38MB for Seamonkey and 68 for FF1.5. So far, I found that the IETabs seems to work, Forecastfox is there, but cannot find it in the uninstaller, and the Prefbar works, partially. No links can be added.
     

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  4. 2006/02/02
    Ramona

    Ramona Geek Member Alumni Thread Starter

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    Dennis L asked if users who are registered with Netscape Internet Service, could use SeaMonkey as their browser.

    The answer is "Yes" with a twist. Netscape 7 is required to dialup, but once you have established the connection, then you will be able to use any browser you wish. I did call Netscape Internet Service to confirm this, and was told by two different representatives, that this was the case.
     
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    Dennis L Lifetime Subscription

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    :) Good detective work Ramona :)

    Have limited use with AOL (parent company to Netscape Internet Services).
    After connection has been established and SeaMonkey loaded, can user close / end Netscape? Possible SeaMonkey users will sweet talk a charitable soul to create an extension to allow SeaMonkey to startup dialup connection (Netscape Internet Service) on it's own.
     
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    Ramona

    Ramona Geek Member Alumni Thread Starter

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    Dennis,

    Yes, once the connection is established, Netscape can be closed, and any browser may be used.

    I do hope that such an extension could be created, but I am doubtful...
     
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    The Old Chief Lifetime Subscription

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    Westside, would you or Ramona explain to me just exactly what an "extension" is. AND, I'l show my total ignorance by also asking what is "IETabs" and what is the "Prefbar ". I assume your talking in acronyms and don't want to make the wrong assumption.

    I reckon, since I'm in the process of changing my ways I might as well take a look see at Seamonkey.

    Thanks,
     
  8. 2006/02/05
    Ramona

    Ramona Geek Member Alumni Thread Starter

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    Ray,

    Take a look at these pages, for loads of information on Extensions:
    http://mozilla.gunnars.net/mozfaq_addons.html#addonlist
    https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=mozilla
    http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/
    https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=firefox
    https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=thunderbird

    IE Tab, and Prefbar (Preferences Toolbar) are both extensions.

    The bottom line: extensions are small add-ons created to add various functions to Firefox/Mozilla/Thunderbird/Netscape. An extension allows the application to be customized to fit the personal needs of each user.

    Extensions are certainly not a necessity, but many are icing on the cake.
     
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    xelaw

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    SeaMonkey or Firefox?

    OK, if I switch from NS 7.2 (which works just fine, by the way - I'm having no problems with it), why should I switch to SeaMonkey and not to Firefox?

    In either case, is there are a problem about putting the new browser profile in a different folder so that it doesn't interfere with NS 7.2? I want both the new browser and NS 7.2 working in parallel for a few weeks while I decide if the switch is worthwhile.
     
  10. 2006/02/06
    Ramona

    Ramona Geek Member Alumni Thread Starter

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    xelaw,

    There is no reason in the world for you not to switch to Firefox and Thunderbird. Most users who are still hanging on to Netscape are doing so because they prefer a suite. That's the only reason I suggested SeaMonkey. My personal preference is Fx and TB, and if you do much reading on the Forum, you will see that I usually push users to try Firefox and Thunderbird.

    I understand your reluctance to switch, especially if you aren't having any problems. Netscape 7.2 uses the source code of Mozilla 1.7.2, and if you will just take a look at the Security vulnerabilities that have been addressed in this version all the way from Mozilla 1.7.2 through Mozilla 1.7.12 you will see that Netscape 7.2 is seriously outdated:

    Known Vulnerabilities

    Older Known Vulnerabilities

    xelaw, it's always your decision and I'm only giving suggestions, and trying to keep the members up-to-date. ;)


    Firefox and Thunderbird both have their own Profile folders, and there is no problem running them in conjunction with Netscape.

    These are the Profile locations:
    Firefox:
    C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

    Thunderbird:
    C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles

    Both Firefox and Thunderbird will migrate your Netscape 7.2 settings, or not, depending on which options you choose. See this Screen Shot

    Let us know if you have further questions. You might want to start a new thread...
     
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    xelaw

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    Ramona, thanks for the clarification. I will download and install FF within a few days, and after that's working to my satisfaction, I will install TB.
     
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    netscape/sea monkey

    I use NS 7.2 for email, not for the browser. For my browser I use Foxfire. What does Sea Monkey do re email? And while I am here, I just noticed that my NS email is not spell checking. I looked up the help on this and what it told me was to Click the Spell button on the toolbar, or open the Edit menu and choose Check Spelling. But there is no spell button on the toolbar or check spelling in the edit menu - suggestions?
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    Ramona

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    SeaMonkey is a suite of components, which contains the Browser, Mail & Newsgroups, and Composer. SeaMonkey Mail is exactly like Netscape 7.xx Mail.

    As to the Netscape problem, would you please start a new thread?

    Thanks!
     
  14. 2006/02/11
    Antony

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    I agree.

    Just allow me to add a few (small) issues.

    What if you use NIM (Netscape Instant Messaging)?
    You can download standalone AIM or ICQ clients from http://www.aim.com/ or http://www.icq.com/

    Okay, I know the NIM does not have advertisements and is considered lighter than official AIM or ICQ clients, you can try third party IM clients.

    What if you use Netscape Webmail?
    Sorry, you can't integrate Netscape Webmail into SeaMonkey's Mail client, however, you can access Netscape Webmail via web interface.
    Netscape Webmail can be accessed from http://webmail.netscape.com/
    Netscape Mail (revamped version of Netscape Webmail, same login/password) can be accessed from http://mail.netscape.com/

    Hope these help.
     
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    Westside

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    A note about Netscape Webmail.Since I had been having problems with Webmail setup in NS7.x, like many other people, I installed a third party application, FreePOPs , and I have been able to set up Netscape Webmail, along with Yahoo and Lycos, like POP accounts.
    I grant that it has been with get things going, since it is not such an user-friendly (not too intuitive) application, but it has worked (I guess until the powers to be discover the trick, and will change the settings). You will have to provide your own SMTP. It works for me.
     
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    Hotaru

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    Does anyone have information on how much Netscape 4.08 and 7.2 are being used today? The only reason I have kept these versions around is to see how pages I design will show up for users of these versions.
     
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    Ramona

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    Hotaru,

    To the best of my knowledge, there are no statistics on the Netscape site. There are websites that keep statistics, however, and also sites which report browser trends such as this one: http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat_trends.htm

    A Google search will give you many more sites with statistics on browser trends.
     
  18. 2006/02/17
    idkjs

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    Migrate from Mozilla or Netscape

    In the past few days my old NS7.2 mail is becoming very cranky. Lockups when trying to DL messages. My question is if I change to Thunderbird ( I guess that is the one :) and transfer my stuff from NS am I also transfering my problems

    Thanks
     
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    Ramona

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    idkjs,

    I would definitely troubleshoot and resolve your mail issue before moving to Thunderbird. Either that, or create a new Profile for Thunderbird and manually move your Mail files.

    If you would start a new thread, we will be happy to help you with this problem...
     

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