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XP freeze in dos?!?!?!? ( right after dos in loading screen)

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Sixreasons, 2005/09/22.

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    Sixreasons

    Sixreasons Inactive Thread Starter

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    Ok first I would like to say hello fam.. Nice to meet you

    This is the problem I'm having.

    I have a amd antholon XP 1.6GHz wit 3 hard drives and a DVD writer…

    I recently formatted and reinstalled win XP home edition to my main hard drive.. I had it up and running for a few day I updated it with service pack 2 and activated it and everything it was working fine…
    Then one day I can back to my computer and it was froze so I rebooted it! After going through dos it normally goes in to the windows loading screen where it shows ( a screen similar to this http://www.woman-in-vogue.net/computers/software/images/XPpro9setup9i.jpg ) but for some reason it shows this but it very dark as if it's freezing wile its going into that screen.. And it will just stay there.. I've even left it that way over night.. And still no luck.. I've even tried inserting my XP cd so I can boot from disk and repair or even reinstall XP but after inspecting my machine it goes to starting windows and it freezes there!! BUT CHECK THIS OUT! I can go into safe mode with no problem! Every single time!! I've even tried every mode in safe mode they all freeze up every time besides Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking and Safe Mode with Command Prompt…. I don’t know what to do ?!?! When I try to reinstall windows from windows safe mode it say something like the windows your are using is new then the one you trying to install and it will not go through… please help me . . ..
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Try clicking on Start->Run and type MSCONFIG

    These are items that load ahter windows does. One of them could be getting in the way. Uncheck a few at a time to see if you can narrow it down.
     

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    Sixreasons

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    ive done that and i click diagnostic start up and on clicked on the things the system need to start up...
     
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    Sixreasons

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    anybody else??
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    Hi Sixreasons!

    I have no idea what You need to do to correct the problem but:

    To reinstall XP, You have to boot from the XP-CD and not start the installation from within Windows Safe Mode.

    With the XP-CD in the tray, restart the computer and if the boot order in BIOS is floppy>CD-ROM>HDD or CD-ROM>floppy>HDD then the computer should boot from the XP-CD and start the installation. Have it full format the system partition.

    Christer
     
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    Sixreasons

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    i try to it just inspects my computer and try to start windows but thats where it get stuck
     
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    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    I have to go to work in 6 hours and have to get some sleep before that. I hope someone else chimes in. However, it seems like some hardware failure. My first step would be to shut down, unplug the power cord and open the case. The graphics card has been known to cause problems during installation. Try to remove and reseat it.

    Good luck!

    Christer
     
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    ok will do if any boy else have any ideas please post
     
  10. 2005/09/22
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    Windows XP clean install

    DO NOT PROCEED IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A MICROSOFT INSTALL CD , IF ALL YOU HAVE IS AN OEM RECOVERY CD ASK FOR DETAILS

    FIrst back up all your data that you can , you will be wiping the drive to get a clean install.
    How to Backup - Restore XP Activation: (worth doing just in case you need it.
    Make sure you have your correct product key for your copy of windows. Do not try to reuse the original OEM product key(obtained using a system analysys tool if you have an OEM install and a seperate product key on the case or install CD. Use the unique one provided for reinstalls.
    Identify all your hardware and go online and download XP drivers for them and burn to cdr,
    XP has a lot of generic drivers, but to get your hardware working correctly you will need to have the correct drivers.
    Otherwise, all devices will function as they do in safe mode where they are limited to windows generic drivers.. So identify your hardware and download drivers from each manufacturer and burn to CDR.
    Download Windows XP Service Pack 2 for IT Professionals and Developers:
    Order Windows XP Service Pack 2 on CD:

    NTFS is a very stable file system and usually a mere reformat does not yeild a clean install. So you will need to repartition the drive first to wipe things or use a secure wiping program such as http://www.killdisk.com/
    Disconnect from the internet. Unplug your ethernet cable if applicable.
    Now you will have to do a repartition, format and clean install. Hopefully you have a Microsoft Install CD for your prior OS (not a mere recovery cd which uses an image file on the hard drive which you probably destroyed) otherwise your "upgrade" CD is worthless.
    Remove any PCI card devices , physically , from the computer. (Not essential, but if you have problems on first try, repeat from the beginning and include this step).
    Also, it is adviseable if practical to disable any firewire or ethernet capability of the motherboard via jumpers or bios settings. (This is a step which I advise you not to skip).
    Enter bios setup and make sure it is set to boot to cdrom before hard drive.
    Put in XP cd and restart PC
    Clean Install
    Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows Upgrading to and installing Windows XP
    Note step 5 where you click next to format and install XP? STOP
    Instead, select last listed partition and press the D key to delete it. Repeat until no partitions are listed, just bare Hard Disk ) xxxxxMB unallocated space.
    You now select that and press the C key to create new partitions. Specify size in MB where 1000MB=1GB. The first one you create will be the C drive so make it between 10GB and 20GB in size so that it is manageable yet still large enough for XP to grow. Repeat until entire drive is partitioned. Then select that first partition and press next to format it and install XP. Note that if the drive is over 137GB in size , you must partition it before you install using the drive manufacturers software if you do not have SP1 or later.
    Once XP is installed, you install your hardware one device at a time per manufacturers instructions. Some like ethernet cards, you need to install the software and drivers first. Others you install hardware and when it is detected , you guide to the drivers you have on the CDR.
    If you haven't done so , reenable what you disabled in bios, install ethernet drivers.
    Install your windows update SP2 then check at windows update for new updates.
    DO NOT GOT ONLINE WITHOUT A FIREWALL, especially if you do not have all the latest updates installed.
    Configure your internet access and check for updates.

    Okay, Windows is installed and secure. Now you have to customize it.

    First reboot and go to start/ programs/ accessories / system restore and create a restore point.
    Right click on desktop=> choose properties => Settings and set your display resolution.
    Go to control panel => System=> Advanced => startup and recovery => settings=> system failure . Uncheck restart on failure, check send admin alert.
    Go to control panel => System=> Advanced =>Performance => settings and customize things. I prefer set for optimal performance.
    Any other customizations, classic interface, turn of desktop cleanup whatever.
    Restore all your data. Remember, it is read only on a cd, so when you copy it back it will be read only until you right click , choose properties, and uncheck the read only attribute and choose apply.
     
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    WINDOWS XP PRE-INSTALLATION PROCEDURE
    ===========================================
    A few caveats should be observed prior to beginning a Windows XP "clean" installation:

    - Check Your Computer's Compatibility With Windows XP:
    Before wiping out your current configuration, particularly if you were using Windows 98 or Windows Me, check compatibility. The Knowledge Base article, How to Prepare to Upgrade Windows 98 or Windows Millennium Edition to Windows XP, describes how to do this in detail. If you were using Windows 2000, I wouldn't worry about compatibility issues as much. I've had good luck in this scenario.
    - Record Your Network Configuration:
    If you're computer is already connected to the Internet, record your network configuration so that you can easily configure Windows XP to connect to the Internet. The easy way to do this is to launch the Windows System Information Utility (usually START | PROGRAMS | ACCESSORIES | SYSTEM TOOLS). Simply select Components | Network | Adapter and then click File | Print | Selection. Alternately, you can save your entire hardware profile to a file by selecting File | Save.
    - Windows XP CD Edition Considerations:

    - Note that an OEM's RESTORE CD is not appropriate for a clean installation. You will need a retail or OEM edition of Windows XP (Full or Upgrade). If you do not have access to one of these source types, you can extract the XP installation files from an OEM's RESTORE CD and use them to create a slipstreamed Windows XP SP2 installation disk as described in the upcoming steps.
    - IMPORTANT: You must use the correct product key for your edition of Windows XP. A Retail Edition key will not work on an OEM edition, an English version key will not work on another language edition, and so on.
    - Backup Your Existing Windows XP Activation File
    - If it applies, you should also review How to change the Windows XP Product Activation Key Code

    - Backup User Data And Settings:
    The Windows XP Files and Settings Transfer Wizard is the easiest way to accomplish this task. Obviously you could simply back up all of your user files, favorites, address books, and so on by using a third-party backup solution. The resulting backup file could then be burned to a CD/DVD or saved to an external hard drive/removable media drive. Restoring the data would then be as simple as running the SAME backup utility on the new system. The built-in back-up utility in Windows 95/98/ME/2000 cannot be used in this same method as the backup file structure is not compatible between the operating systems. You could use the Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP backup utility IF you were restoring the data to the SAME OPERATING SYSTEM. The Windows XP Files and Settings Transfer Wizard runs on Windows 95 or higher and automates the selection of common user files and settings on Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP systems. It then restores them to the correct location on the new Windows XP system. Please see the following links for step-by-step tutorials on using this versatile utility:

    - Using the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard in Windows XP
    - Step-by-Step Guide to Migrating Files and Settings
    - How To Use the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard By Using the Windows XP CD-ROM

    - Prepare A Slipstreamed Windows XP SP2 Installation Disk:
    See The Elder Geek's step-by-step, illustrated guide "Slipstreamed Windows XP CD Using SP2 " to complete this step. This tutorial has all the links you need to download the latest service pack and all other required files.
    - Prepare A Hardware Driver CD-ROM:

    - Note the make and model for each card installed inside your PC (modem, NIC, video card, etc.) as well as all external peripherals (mouse, keyboard, monitor, printer, etc.).
    - Visit the hardware manufacturer's support site for each of these devices. Locate the support page for the EXACT make and model of your device.
    - Download and extract the latest drivers and utilities to a folder on your hard drive [i.e. My Documents\Drivers\<devicename>\<driver | utility>\<version>].
    - Once completed, burn the My Documents\Drivers\ (for example) folder to a CD-R.

    - Prepare The Hard Disk:

    - SATA Hard Disks - Use the SATA drive's OEM utilities disk to delete existing partitions. Reformatting is not required as partitioning and formatting options are available during the Windows XP setup routine.
    - SCSI Hard Disks - Use the SCSI adapter's BIOS utilities to "zero fill" any attached hard disks. Reformatting is not required as partitioning and formatting options are available during the Windows XP setup routine.
    - EIDE ATA Hard Disks - A debug routine can be performed on the computer similar to a low-level format to re-initialize the hard disk drive, thus returning it to the OEM's delivery state. The following debug routine is for EIDE ATA hard disks:

    - Configure The Bios To Recognize The CD Drive As The First Boot Device:

    - You must configure the computer's basic input/output settings (BIOS) to boot from a CD. BIOS settings are specific to each computer, so step-by-step instructions for configuring yours to boot from the CD require consulting the computer or motherboard's manual, or the computer's OEM website.

    - Devices To Disconnect:
    The following devices should be disconnected from the PC prior to installation of the Windows XP operating system.

    - All external peripherals except for the keyboard, mouse, and monitor.
    - Specialized PC cards that do not have drivers installable from a floppy disk during Windows XP text based setup (Press F6 when the initial XP setup screen appears to install specialized drivers from a floppy disk).

    - Devices To Leave Connected:
    The following devices should left installed in the PC prior to installation of the Windows XP operating system.

    - Network Interface Card - During the graphical section of Windows XP setup, XP can auto-detect an existing Internet connection and download updated setup configuration files and components. This same connection is used to activate the copy of XP and allow new user registration. In the strictest security terms, this DOES represent a slight security risk as adware, spyware, or viruses could download to the disk prior to you having a chance to setup the system's security. However, as long as you are following the exact steps of this tutorial and do not access any websites post setup that are not specifically listed herein, your chances of infection are minute. Even on the off chance you are infected, the parasite can be cleaned with the security tools listed in the "Post-Installation" section. If you are truly concerned, by all means leave the network cable disconnected from the PC until you have installed and configured your security applications.
    - Common internal PC cards like modems and sound cards will generally be recognized and a generic driver installed or, if Windows does not recognize the device, it will be left disabled. After setup completes, all PC card drivers can be updated from Device Manager using the driver CD-ROM prepared earlier. Again, you may certainly elect to remove all internal PC cards except for the video card. You can then install them one-at-a-time after Windows XP is installed.
     
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    Hi Oshwyn,
    Could you please meet me in the "comments and suggestions" forum? I have posted a note for ya'.
     
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    Done and I finished reediting this post now that I converted these notes.


    Here is the last section.


    WINDOWS XP INSTALLATION PROCEDURE
    ===========================================

    - Boot the computer using the slipstreamed Windows XP SP2 CD. Don't blink during startup though, because you'll briefly see a message that says, "Press any key to boot from CD." Miss this opportunity, and the computer will attempt to start from the hard disk. If you don't see this message, your CD-ROM isn't bootable or you did not configure your computer's basic input/output settings (BIOS) as detailed in the "Pre-Install" section of this tutorial.
    - When the CD boots your computer, it loads the Windows XP Setup program. A series of screens walks you through the initial installation process. This part of the setup program is text mode, as opposed to GUI mode, which is the graphical part of the setup program that you see after the computer restarts. A step-by-step tutorial detailing each phase of the XP setup process is detailed in the The Elder Geek's "Clean Install Procedure with Illustrative Screen Captures - Windows XP Pro " or "Clean Install Procedure with Illustrative Screen Captures - Windows XP Home "
    - Once Windows XP is installed, run Microsoft Windows Update. Select, download, and install all critical and recommended updates. Reboot later if so prompted.
    - Update drivers or install hardware devices one-at-a-time per the manufacturer's instructions. You will utilize the driver CD-ROM created in the "Pre-Installation" section of this tutorial to accomplish this task.

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    WINDOWS XP POST-INSTALLATION PROCEDURE
    ===========================================

    - Restore User Data Files and Settings:

    - Restore the data backed up in the "Pre-Installation" section using the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard.

    - Customize And Optimize The Windows XP Interface:

    - See The Elder Geek's step-by-step, illustrated guide "The Windows XP User Interface " to complete this step. This tutorial covers configuration of all major GUI components.
    - For serious performance optimization and registry tweaking, see X-Setup Pro for the ultimate tweaking utility and Black Viper's Site for optimizing Windows XP services.
    - Download | Install | Run RegSupreme. This freeware application (part of the excellent JV16 PowerTools Pack), will backup, scan, and clean your registry. The help file contains comprehensive documentation on the program's settings and use.
    - Download | Install | Run PageDefrag. When you run PageDefrag (pagedfrg.exe) you will be presented a listbox that tells you how many clusters make up your paging files, event log files, and Registry hives (SAM, SYSTEM, SYSTEM.ALT, SECURITY, SOFTWARE, .DEFAULT), as well as how fragmented they are. If you feel that these files are fragmented enough to warrant defragmenting them, or if you want to defragment them at every boot (RECOMMENDED), select the appropriate radio button choice and click "OK. "
    - Download | Install | Run Mr. Tech Systray. MR Tech Systray is a Swiss army knife of tools, tweaks and system options. It will not only let you quickly shut down, restart, or log off from Windows, it can help keep your hard disk a little cleaner, organize your MP3 & other media files, edit MP3's iD3 tags, sort text lines, log reboots, and tune your system. Other features include: system-wide shortcut keys, an incredibly fast program uninstaller, a directory jump list, enhanced system information, save or print screenshot/window and more. It is recommended that the Mr Tech Systray scheduler be utilized to clean various types of system trash on a regular basis.

    - Establish A Multi-Layered Security Perimeter For Your PC:

    - Download | Install | Update Definitions | Run Spybot S&D
    -AND/OR-
    Download | Install | Update Definitions | Run Ad-Aware Personal .
    - Download | Install | Update Definitions | Run AVG Anti-Virus Free
    - Or Avast free antivirus
    - SECURITY RECOMMENDATION: Disable and Replace The Windows XP SP2 Firewall
    The Windows XP firewall as delivered in Windows XP Service Pack 2 only filters INCOMING traffic. This does not provide sufficient protection against current threats. It is recommended that the Windows Firewall be DISABLED =(HOW?) and that a two-way filtering software firewall like ZoneAlarm (Freeware Edition) be installed and configured at this point. If you are on a home network that uses a broadband NAT/SPI router, you have a basic hardware firewall in place. This makes the software firewall less critical than in a scenario where the computer is connected directly to the Internet through a DSL/Cable modem. However, a software firewall may be effectively used in tandem with a hardware-based firewall to add yet another layer of protection to the system (RECOMMENDED).
    - Download | Install | Update Definitions | Run Spyware Blaster . SpywareBlaster prevents the installation of ActiveX-based spyware, adware, browser hijackers, dialers, and other potentially unwanted pests. As well, it will block spyware/tracking cookies in Internet Explorer/Mozilla/Firefox and restrict the actions of potentially dangerous sites in Internet Explorer.
    - Download | Install | Update Definitions | Run SpywareGuard. SpywareGuard provides a real-time protection solution against spyware that is a great addition to SpywareBlaster's protection method. SpywareGuard features download and browser hijacking protection and a real-time scanning engine that can catch and block spyware before it is executed (EXE and CAB files supported) with signature-based scanning for known spyware and heuristic/generic detection capabilities to catch new/mutated spyware. SpywareGuard also provides download protection to prevent spyware from being download in Internet Explorer, as well as browser hijacking protection to stop browser hijacking activity in real-time.
    - Download | Install | Run MRU Blaster. MRU-Blaster is a program made to perform one task - detect and clean MRU (most recently used) lists on your computer. These MRU lists contain information such as the names and/or locations of the last files accessed. These are located ALL OVER the registry, and for almost ANY file type. By looking at these MRU lists, someone could determine what files you have opened/saved/looked at, what their file names were, and much more!
    - SECURITY RECOMMENDATION: Stop Using Internet Explorer
    If you use either Mozilla, Firefox or Opera, you are immune to most (if not all) known browser hijackers as of this writing. You are immune for two reasons. First, most people use Internet Explorer, so most malicious code is custom built to exploit it. Second, Opera's and Mozilla's programmers take security very seriously and have made these browsers very secure. It is not possible to install software from a web site using these browsers without at least seeing a prompt of some sort asking permission.
    - SECURITY RECOMMENDATION: If You Must Use Internet Explorer
    You can take several steps to increase MSIE's security and close some of the most well-known exploits. Please review the "If You Must Use MSIE" section of Prevent Browser Hijacking at SpywareInfo.Com.
    - SECURITY RECOMMENDATION: Protect Yourself From Browser Redirection
    Install CoreStreet's SpoofStick. Available for both Internet Explorer and Mozilla FireFox, SpoofStick is a simple browser extension that helps users detect spoofed (fake) websites. A spoofed website is typically made to look like a well known, branded site (like ebay.com or citibank.com) with a slightly different or confusing URL. The attacker then tries to trick people into going to the spoofed site by sending out fake email messages or posting links in public places - hoping that some percentage of users won't notice the incorrect URL and give away important information. This practice is sometimes known as "phishing ". SpoofStick makes it easier to spot a spoofed website by prominently displaying only the most relevant domain information. It's not a comprehensive solution, but it's a good start.
    - Delete "trash files" using Mr. Tech Systray.
    - Check and defragment your hard disks - (assuming you do not have a commercial application like Executive Software's Diskeeper installed), simply utilize the disk checking and defragmentation utility that is included in all versions of Windows. Normally, the shortcuts are in the Start | Programs | Accessories | System Tools folder. Tutorials for Windows XP are available http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...earnmore/tips/kbtip.mspx] HERE (Disk Checking and HERE (Disk Defragmenting).

    - Reboot the computer and enjoy!

    I hope you find this information helpful!
     

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