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Very very slow shutdown

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Mark Hasenbein, 2005/08/04.

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    Mark Hasenbein

    Mark Hasenbein Inactive Thread Starter

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    Very slow shutdown after auto check fix.
    Have 3 control sets after fixing auto the there'd set changed to "current control set "
    Could this cause a problem or is it a setting problem.
    Mark
     
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    PeteC

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    Fine, so do I, plus a Current Control Set.

    I do hope you've made a back up of the registry - you're delving where most angels fear to tread :D
    Slow as in how long - approximately? See here and here and many more here
     

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    Mark Hasenbein

    Mark Hasenbein Inactive Thread Starter

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    Pete #3 changed to current control set. I only have 3.
    It takes 7 minuets for the shutdown, restart box to come up.
    I have applied the tweaks before auto check was fixed and checked and they are still their. I do know how to save before I change any thing and to reinstall if I don't like the effect.
    I don't want to make any drastic changes it's just boots up fast but takes about 10 to 12 minuets to shut down now. Before it would shutdown about as fast as it boot.
    I have a list of services to stop and have restarted some to make windows work faster.
    Any ideas would be helpful.
    Mark
     
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    PeteC

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    Mark

    I am out shortly this evening - search (advanced search) the XP forum for slow AND shutdown and read through some of those threads.
     
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    Hi Mark,

    If you don't find a specific fix, what you're going to have to do is narrow it down by disabling one process at a time and shutting down.

    Have you tried safe mode, does this happen in safe mode with only the OS and it's services running?

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Mark Hasenbein

    Mark Hasenbein Inactive Thread Starter

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    Go to, http://www.snapfiles.com/get/xpantispy.html
    I don't know what it did but every thing is reversible I tried it.
    Now the box pops up instantly, click flash flash and it's gone.
    But nothing is perfect will see later if their are any problems.
    Mark
     
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    Famous last words! I think you are playing with fire. Never do anything unless you know exactly what you are doing, what it effects, and if it is a system critical risk. If not system critical will it effect other things as well.

    Many things can be easily reversed unless you manage to lock yourself out of the OS. As a beginner, who has yet to become familiar and comfortable with disaster recovery or what to recognize as a "high risk" procedure or tweak, you need to look before you leap. Do some research, using your preferred search engine.

    You wander to far away from windows defaults and problems snowball. One setting may have and effect many co-dependant services, settings and abilities. To many tweaks and you lose all perspective and memory on what you have enabled or disabled. You'll find yourself not being able to do something and not understanding or remembering why? You will not be able to decide or determine if you have an application problem caused by system or software or a problem based on you "the user" and a tweak.

    I'm just getting a little nervous for you, based on past posts. While I understand your eagerness to play and explore and am not suggesting you don't do this. I am merely suggesting that you thoroughly understand what you are doing before you do it.

    Mamby-Pamby, I know, but "the school of hard knocks" is not a joy.... :)
     
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    I'll second that.

    It would also be nice to know which of the system setting(s) caused the problem in the first place.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Something that has caused ( MANY ) problems for me.

    MAKING TOO MANY Changes all at once. Better known as GETTING IN A HURRY.

    I have found it best to make a change and then wait even a day or two before making another one. With some things it may well take several restarts for things to get really settled down and find that the change you made is not going to effect something else.

    This not only applys to various System Settings but to installing new Software. Install it. Then give the OS,the new Program and the USER time to adjust to each other.

    BillyBob
     
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    Mark Hasenbein

    Mark Hasenbein Inactive Thread Starter

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    Have already backed off. Like Billy Bob have run in to that problem building machines. You start with one problem and improve this change that add something to enhance this then nothing works. At the speed the machine runs you can't tell which thing you did caused the other 4 problems.
    I can customize the program and I will start one program or system at a time and see what caused the problem.
    Thanks for the advice. :D
    Mark
     
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    Mark Hasenbein

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    HI every one :)
    Found the problem my spy ware AVG and Microsoft were running.
    Before restarting I opened task manager and found them running and stooped them. Went back and changed the settings and went to msconfig and changed
    some things.
    Now I start it all manual.
     
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    I do not know what Microsoft things you are referring to but AVG should not cause problems.

    UNLESS, you have it set to Auto-update and/or do any type of checking at bootup.

    I have AVG Anti-Virus loading at bootup an all three machines. 1-XP Pro and 2-98SE. One SE machine slows down a little because I have it set to Autoupdate. I have it set that way because I very seldom use that machine and I FORGET to update it.

    BillyBob
     
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    PeteC

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    Mark,
    If you refer to Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta then you are right :) I find that on occasions the MSAS will not shut down when I ask the computer to shut down. My solution if this happens is to shut down MSAS from the icon in the Notification area and then shut down the computer. There must be a bug in MSAS.

    You must keep AVG running all the time otherwise you are unprotected - that was not the cause of your slow shutdown and you would be advised to do the same with MSAS and shut it down manually. Check for an update - current version is 1.0.615
     
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    charlesvar

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    I thought the problem would turn out to be this sort of thing. But, what's puzzling is what XP-antispy had to do with solving the problem, which AFAIK, works on system settings. The only thing I can think of is it stopped error reporting/logging of some kind.

    Mark, is this the latest version that you used?

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Mark Hasenbein

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    AVG was ruining a scan and MS anti spy was scheduled to scan at the same time.
    Now I run scans manually to stop any conflicts.
    Boot and shutdown are back to normal.
    Thanks for the help :D
     

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