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*.DLL Lost after uninstalling MS.NET Framework 1.1 and SP1

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    scottdietert

    scottdietert Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Good evening Staff and visitors,
    Another example of "DLL Hell" has occurred after MS AntiSpyware (Beta1) identified the MS.Net Framework 1.1 and its SP1 as presenting a medium risk spyware. After I uninstalled these two .Net Framework 1.1 files I found that my newly installed and perfectly functional RSS Reader would not load! :mad:

    Review of the RSS Reader requirements indicated that the Reader program required the MS.Net Framework 1.1 be installed before installation of the RSS Reader program. Of course, since the Framework 1.1 was already installed on my PC for several months, I did not realize the interdependence of these two programs. :(

    I have now reinstalled both the Framework 1.1 and its Service Pack 1 files. Unfortunately,the following error message occurs after each reboot. This message was present immediately AFTER the uninstallation but BEFORE either reinstallation; and it is still present AFTER the reinstallation of both MS.NET Framework 1.1 files. :mad:

    ERROR MESSAGE (in an error window rectangle)
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    |<RUNDLL
    |Error loading C:\PROGRA~1\NEWDOT~1\NEWDOT~1.DLL
    |The specified module could not be found>
    -----------------------------------------------------

    Please give me all the help you can since this initialization failure prevents me from using the System Restore function, which I had hoped would solve the loss of the *.DLL file and the two MS.NET Framework 1.1 files. What a mess after following what seemed the good advice of the MS AntiSpyware.

    Help, Scott
    PS: at no time did I see a file and folder named NEWDOT~1.... among my C:\Program Files\......... files and folders!
     
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    charlesvar Inactive Alumni

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    For anyone reading this:

    When any anti-malware app flags malware, first try to locate the malware/adware in the Add/Remove panel and uninstall from there first, then use the anti-malware app for cleanup, otherwise this sort of thing can happen.


    Scott,
    What comes to mind is to re-infect yourself with Newdot and then go thru their uninstall procedures. I think you can download it from their site.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    scottdietert

    scottdietert Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks TonyT and charlesvar for your response to my plea for help,
    But I'm really confused about the fundamental problem and the proposed solution(s). Please answer with a simple explanation of how newdotnet.dll relates to the MS.NET Framework 1.1 program? If I removed newdotnet.dll, which is spyware why does my PC now say that it can't function without newdotnet.dll? Do I have to reinstall it to effectively delete it??? :confused:

    Waiting for a step by step approach. But to regain RSS Reader I need MS.NET Framework 1.1 and I also need to regain the capability of using System Restore.
    Sincerely, I have never been this confused in years.
    Scott
     
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    .DLL Lost after uninstalling MS.NET Framework 1.1 and SP1

    Good morning charlesvar and TonyT,
    Using the web site: http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?newdotnet
    I was able to download specific instructions about how to locate, download, and use the UNINSTALL file named <uninstall4_50.exe.> on a 3.5" floppy. The entire newdotnet program has now been uninstalled and all is well with my PC, except the System Restore will still not work. I think I have saved windowsbbs instructions (when this application failed in the past) that detailed how to clear and start over in a "clean" System Restore. If I cannot find these instructions you may hear from me again.
    Sincerely'
    Scott :D
     
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    After getting rid of Newdot.net, it is a good idea to use WinSockFix, as it was hooked into your internet connection.
    To clean out SR, disable System Restore and then enable it.
    Please answer with a simple explanation of how newdotnet.dll relates to the MS.NET Framework 1.1 program?
    It doesn't.
     
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    scottdietert Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    .DLL Lost after uninstalling MS.NET Framework 1.1 and SP1

    Thank you, markp62
    for your further help and a repeat of the "System Restore clean and restore steps." I was able to find my several year old notes (copied from windowsBBS in the past) and my System Restore is now alive and well.
    <SNIP: it is a good idea to use WinSockFix, as it was hooked into your internet connection>
    Will incorporate your WinSockFix suggestion as my final step. Again thanks as well to charlesvar and TonyT; the windowsBBS has once again most useful in assisting with PC problems. This entire web site resource is the most con- sistently useful of the internet options that I have ever found. :D
    Please keep up your generous support as MS and Dell have become almost worthless in my view.
    Sincerely,
    Scott
     
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    You're welcome.
    Keep in mind that Dell & MS Support may appear to be uneffective at assisting with certain issues, esp of the type you had, because it is difficult for any support group to stay on top of and keep abreast with these newer issues, esp spyware and viruses. New variants of spyware and viruses are seen daily, most of the time the earlier fix methods will handle, but sometimes the new variants require new methods of fixing. As well, the front line support at major companies purpose is to help remedy common issues, usually the simpler issues that customers encounter. Most of these personell are not trained in tougher issues. We are!
     
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    You're welcome Scott.

    Out of curiousity, since I know you're savvy about stuff like this, do you know how you got infected with Newdot? This would help all around - for those that want to avoid it and for those that help.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    scottdietert Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hello Charlesvar,

    I have absolutely no idea when or how the newdotnet (ndn) infection appeared :eek: It must have been recently, within a week or so, because MS AS (Microsoft AntiSpyware) did not detect ndn during its last search (about once a week). It is interesting that only MS AS recognized ndn as spyware. Ad-Aware SE personal and Spybot Search and Destroy did not "see" it as an electronic spy; but note that MS AS only conducted a partial removal!

    But, how "bad" is ndn in perspective? The trouble I had deleting the entire mess left me wondering if the spyware removal was worth the mental anguish of solving an antispyware "problem," since boot corruption was created by INCOMPLETE REMOVAL OF THAT SPYWARE. :confused:

    TTFN,
    Scott :)
     
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    Hi Scott,

    It is interesting that only MS AS recognized ndn as spyware. Ad-Aware SE personal and Spybot Search and Destroy did not "see" it as an electronic spy
    The reasons for that in the case of NDN is that in SSD, the default for finding this "product" is set to ignore: from the front panel > settings > ignore products - NDN comes checked.

    In the case of AAW, I've read that it is also ignored by design.

    In both cases for legal reasons.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    And because if not properly removed, it can break your internet connection. Using Add/Remove is the recommended way of removing New.net. I am surprised to learn of MSAS removing it. Thanks! ;)
     
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    scottdietert Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hello noahdfear,
    Thank you for your posting. Maybe this thread will evolve into a must read for all visitors! :D
    At any rate when you mention Add and Remove, I have to admit I did not think of looking at A and R for newdotnet, since I didn't install it intentionally. I always assumed ( "ass you me," many say when using this verb) that spyware would not be visible in A and R; am I incorrect?
    Sincerely,
    Scott
     
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    Actually, many unwanted, dropped-on-your system apps show up in Add/Remove. Some can be and are safe to remove via AR, some shouldn't be, as they want to connect to a site to use their 'uninstaller', which really doesn't uninstall it but drops more junk instead. :mad: New.net (NewDotNet) is one of the exceptions, and if not listed in AR should be removed with their uninstaller.

    It definately is one that I'm making lots of folks aware of, to include Microsoft and the MSAS team. :D
     
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    Hi Scott,

    There is something you wrote that I didn't respond to and should have.

    But, how "bad" is ndn in perspective? The trouble I had deleting the entire mess left me wondering if the spyware removal was worth the mental anguish of solving an antispyware "problem," since boot corruption was created by INCOMPLETE REMOVAL OF THAT SPYWARE

    Yes it was worth it, even though MS AS botched it. The essence of securtiy is to know what apps/processes are running on one's system, w/o that, you're not secure. Do you know what Newdot does? Any app that installs w/o your say so or knowledge is IMO malware, whether it does damge or not.

    The ideal would be for the anti-malware apps in cases like this to warn you that something like this exists. So for example, Spybot should warn you that Newdot is present and not attempt to remove it and give you info on what it is. Ad-Aware does that sort of thing with their TAC threat level reporting and MS AS also has a like function.

    Regards - Charles
     
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