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Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by IvanH, 2014/10/01.

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    IvanH

    IvanH Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    A poem:

    Windows XP was killed
    Windows 7 was not allowed to live
    Windows 8 was an alien certified dead
    Windows 8.1 was stillborn in ICU
    Windows 9 was miscarriage
    Windows 10 is now "The Thing ", an IVF from Windows 7 and 8
    Can Microsoft survive another unfortunate event?

    How do you like it?
     
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    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    No facts!
    Across desktop PCs as a whole, only 13.4% currently run Windows 8 or Windows 8.1, according to research firm NetMarketshare.

    By contrast, it says 51.2% are powered by Windows 7 and 23.9% by Windows XP, a version that is no longer supported by Microsoft.

    Mr Johnson said the reintroduction of the Start Menu should help Windows 10 fare better.
    Every new version is an improvement on the previous and works great for me and I don't have any pips to worry about. Neil. :D
     

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    Why are they skipping Windows 9? Because 7 - 8 - 9.
     
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    MS said on the news there are enough changes/improvements they are skipping a version number (in others words marketing/ad/ hype and excitement building).
     
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    IvanH

    IvanH Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Just because Apple is going to release Mac OS X version 10.10 (Yosemite).

    p.s. Microsoft Surface Pro 3 is a good comeback but the back of the device marks Windows 8. Can't it run Windows 8.1 or Windows 10? Stupid!
     
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    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Are you saying that MS Surface Pro 3 can't run 8.1 or 10? It can run both.
    Below is a link for Win 10.

    http://www.wpcentral.com/some-thoughts-about-windows-10-preview-surface-pro-3
     
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    SpywareDr

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    ExtremeTech > Why is it called Windows 10 not Windows 9?
     
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    IvanH

    IvanH Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I believe Surface pro 3 can run 8.1 and 10. But it just reminded me my old laptop carrying the label Windows Vista though I have upgraded to Windows 7. Every time I read the label, I had an odd feeling that I was being stupid running Windows 7 on a machine designed for Windows Vista. I bet I'll have the same feeling if I run Windows 10 on Surface Pro 3.

    b.t.w. From http://news.microsoft.com/2014/09/30/microsoft-unveils-the-future-of-windows/, Terry Myerson, executive vice president said "This will be our most comprehensive operating system and the best release Microsoft has ever done for our business customers... " Does it mean that Windows 10 is intended to give in home users?
     
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    The PC that I am on now came with XP. I added some ram after I got it because it was a lot cheaper for me to do it then to get it from Dell.
    I upgraded to Win 7 Pro and not problems. Then I bought another HD and put Win 8 on it and updated it to 8.1 and no problems.

    Here is a link to Win 7 upgrade advisor. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=20
     
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    Excellent point Mr Bill, often times we take systems that are "built for XP" as an indication that they can't be used with Newer Operating Systems.

    They may be "built" for a certain OS, but we can darn right upgrade them to work with newer ones [emoji108][emoji106][emoji28]
     
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    rsinfo

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    Most of the systems built in last 5 years are capable of running the latest version of Windows, if you upgrade the RAM.

    I am running Win 8.1 on my 4 year old computer. I just added a little sprinkling of RAM.
     
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    My desktop pc is from 2000. It came with ME. Upgraded it to, XP Pro then to 7 Ultimate. It may only be 32bit but it works just fine.
     
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    IvanH

    IvanH Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I've been running Windows 10 x64 Technical Review as a virtual machine on Fusion 7 Pro on my MacBook Pro running OS X Yosemite Beta 4.

    The download was terribly slow and timeout many times. Installation to Fusion 7 was in deed a piece of cake. The only thing was to turn off a few chooses in the privacy settings.

    Of course, this is only a "technical review" version running as a virtual machine on an hypervisor intended for current Windows versions like Windows 8.1, and the hypervisor is also running on a beta version of Apple Mac OS X Yosemite.

    First impression: Windows 10 is trying very hard to look like OS X, back to a few years ago. That's okay, at least I've been working on it for the whole day. When I tested Windows 8, I dumbed it in an hour.

    Working on it after an hour: Well, I turned on the Windows 8.1 virtual machine on a new OS X desktop. So, I have been working on three OSes together. I didn't feel any slowdown in performance. It just like working on a single OS without interfering another. That's very good.

    I don't hate it, so far. There is no learning effort to me. It's much easier to use than Windows 8 or 8.1. If Windows 10 is free, I may consider to let it stay on my MacBook Pro and further consider to move my Windows specific application and data from Windows 7 and 8.1 to this virtual machine. Of course, it will cost my time.

    What Microsoft lacks, at this point, is a free-of-charge hypervisor which should be bundled with Windows 10. Of course, I can save less than $100 for a VMware Fusion or Parallels Desktop by installing it in Oracle Virtual Box. Will someone test it out?

    If Microsoft Windows 10 is free and easily installable on a hypervisor in OS X, tens of millions of Mac machines can become a Windows machine overnight! In theory. If market share of Windows 10 and percentage of latest Windows version are now what Microsoft desperately wanted.

    The energy performance of Windows 10 virtual machine seems very good. It uses only 3.5% - 10% when IE v11 is in used. (typing this text.) while Windows 8.1 virtual machine is using 20% of CPU doing nothing, as seen from the Activity Monitor of OS X.

    Oh, forget to mention: The whole environment (Yosemite Beta 4 + Fusion 7 + Windows 10) is running on an external HDD (5,400 rpm) with USB 2.0 connection (due to the age of my MBP), though the housing is a USB3.0 one.

    So far so good.

    Apple may not like it.
     
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    masterroming

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    Thanks for sharing Ivan, have you had any crashes yet? So far my setup has been running perfectly, taking into consideration that it's all running off of a 32 GB USB 2.0 Stick, and is an early Beta.

    Shutdown times also seem to be a whole lot quicker, although perhaps that's because they haven't full implemented the Sytem32 folder in yet... You know? The one that contains useless files which are only there to slow your computer down? [emoji28]

    I have to say the first thing I noticed is the fancy new animation when opening a window, it is strange to begin with, but you get used to it...

    The Feedback centre thing was nye on ingenious, i've (shamefully?) spent a fair few hour trawling through the suggestions and bug reports, even replicating the ones which sound interesting. It adds to the whole "all in this together" feel, and is a very smart move IMO.
     

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