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Mozilla or Firefox?

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by Ann, 2005/01/05.

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    Ann

    Ann Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Ramona,

    I have been hearing a lot about Firefox and would like your input. I am still reading up on Mozilla vs. Netscape, however, if I go with Mozilla, as you suggested, it will be a completely new browser. If I have to start fresh, will Firefox be the better of the two?

    I would also have to deal with setting up a mail courier, which I have never done.

    Who knew a new computer would put me back in kindergarten.

    Can you give me some links for Firefox?

    Thanks.
     
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    Westside

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    This is no answer to you, but you will understand. Tabs are great, especially when going back and forth to check other website. But keep your mouse off the X, because it does not understand that you reall want to go to the other Tab.
    This happened to me when trying to reply your post, and, a nice well researched reply went bye-bye.
    Now, to business. Netscape and Mozilla are almost identical, except that Netscape does not have the hideous red dragon. You don't lose much going to Mozilla, and Mozilla1.7.5 is technically more reliable than NS7.2, and faster. But one has to beware of not trying to save time by using a single profile for the two of them
    In fact, Mozilla 1.7.5 and Firefox share the same engine, but Firefox is a smaller download, and a lot of its buttons are in different toolbar locations.
    The downloads and some informations are at the Mozilla website . Information from a Netscape7.x or Mozilla can be migrated, during installation. The mail client for Firefox can be any one which is default, but I prefer Thunderbird.
    Good luck! And, I think that I will make it this time.
     

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    Ramona

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    Ann,

    First, since you are just moving from Communicator, and Windows 95, perhaps you would be more comfortable with Mozilla to start with, as then as you get the hang of it, then move on to Firefox, and Thunderbird.

    Mozilla 1.7.5 is based on the Firefox 1.0 code, and you won't be missing a thing, as far as speed is concerned. However, if you want to be on the cutting edge, Firefox is the way to go, along with Thunderbird, which is the companion Mail Client for Firefox.

    Here are some Firefox and Thunderbird links:
    http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
    http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.html
    http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Mozilla_Firefox
    http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/
    http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/mozdoesit/firebird/tips.html
    http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/live-bookmarks.html
    http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showforum=2

    http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
    http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/releases/
    http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Thunderbird_:_FAQs
    http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/faq.html
    https://addons.update.mozilla.org/themes/?application=thunderbird
    http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/specs/extensions.html

    Ramona
     
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    jheibeck

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    I LOVE Firefox. I've got the portable version and carry it with me on my thumb drive. It's customized just the way I want it, and I can use it on any PC without leaving a trace of my having been there. As an IT tech, I'm always on a PC, usually not mine. It's great having my bookmarks available whereever I am. Also I can save username/passwords for all of my forums and tech sites with confidence of security (thumb drive has encryption software).

    I also have Portable Thunderbird on my drive and can check my email from any PC with all of my filters and settings in place.

    I've used Mozilla, but it always seemed - I don't know - a little weak, vaguely disappointing.

    Firefox and Thunderbird ROCK!!!
     
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    One of the very nice things about FF is that you can have as many, or as few, buttons on your toolbar as you like, and they can be arranged in any order you like. I like my toolbar simple and clean, so I have only Print this page, Back, Forward, Reload, History, and Open a new tab as my primary buttons, with Stop loading this page and Read Mail over to the right. See the attachment.

    And, you can use whatever icon you like in the titlebar. I think FF's default icon looks like roadkill, so I use the old "red bonfire" icon from Phoenix/Firebird days. Same for Tbird ... the default icon looks like someone with a bad hairpiece, so I use the old "blue bonfire ".
     
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    I knew the moment I used the word button that I was wrong. What I meant was this: Firefox has everything in Tools, and Preferences are called Options. Mail settings of Thunderbird are also in Tools, instead of Edit|Mail Settings.
    So, someone coming from Netscape or Mozilla, may have to get used to the different topgraphy. I am not talking about the other toolbar buttons.
    You spoiled my art appreciation. I don't know if I can look at the Tb or FF icons. You are right, to some extent. I, already, made some changes. Thanks.
     
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    Ramona

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    Westside,

    Art appreciation? ROTFL! :D
     
  9. 2005/01/09
    Ann

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    I have a huge headache from reading and reading. A lot of the stuff in Mozilla and firefox makes me feel like I need to know programming. A lot of it is over my head.

    Can I install either one without being a tech guru? Is it possible to install and go? The only other option is just sticking with IE. I guess that is what MS wants.
     
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    Ramona

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    Ann,

    Don't be intimidated. Install Mozilla 1.7.5, and it will automagically convert your Communicator Profile (if you have Communicator installed on your new PC). If not don't worry about it, I'll talk you thru it, or help in any way I can....

    You don't need to be a programmer, or tech guru, to use Mozilla. You will find that it is similar to Communicator, only so much better.

    You can do it!

    Ramona
     
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    Ann

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    Ramona - I did not quit on you. However, I am still trying to learn the new computer and limiting online use until I get rid of certain problems.

    I do not have NS on the new computer. I will need browser and Pop Mail as well as Web Mail. My biggest worry will be how to save my NS Profiles. But for now, I am using the old one with NS 4.79 and when I think I am ready to do the change on the new computer, I will come back to you for help.
     
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    MinnesotaMike

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    Ann,

    Just another opinion here. I have always used Netscape browsers. Worked my way up to 7.0. I then took the jump to Firefox 1.0 and have since stopped using my Netscape browser. I did not transfer any Netscape info over during the install of FF. I wanted to make sure that I would like it first. It didn't take long to figure out that FF was quicker then Netscape. I then transferred my bookmarks over to FF without a problem. You will like it. Like Ramona says, don't worry about all the tech talk. Just install and you will be surfing right away.

    As far as Thunderbird, I installed just to see what it's like. I haven't used it much, but I'm not seeing a big change from the Netscape 4.78 mail program that I have been using for some time.

    Just remember that there is plenty of help here to get you going!

    Mike
     
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    JSS3rd my Firefox doesnt show "Print this page ". How do I add it to my browser?
     
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    Right-click anywhere in the Menubar or Toolbar area and select Customize.... When the Customize Toolbar window opens, simply drag the Print icon to wherever on the Toolbar you want it and click the Done button. The Print icon is now the Print this page button.
     
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