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Old 30th June 2008   #1
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Need to stop CD/DVD drive from reading


Occassionally I put a disc in the CD/DVD drive and it fails to read correctly. I need to know how to stop the drive from reading. How do I stop the process or eject the disc. Even shutting down the computer fails to stop the drive and the computer will not stop reading therefor the computer fails to shut down and the only way to get control is to reset when the OS as written final files to the hard drive. If this occurs too often I usually do a disc error check on the hard drive as shutting down the OS in this way sometimes causes OS problems. How do I stop the CD?DVD disc process?

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days77 - Welcome to the Board

Several questions arise here ....

Can you eject the disk using the eject button on the drive?

Can you eject the disk using the eject command on the drive through Windows Explorer - right click on the drive > Eject?

Any specific CD/DVD? Have you tested in another computer? The disk may be dirty/damaged.

Always a CD or a DVD or both ? - CD/DVD drives have 2 read heads, one for CD, the other for DVD.

Have you checked the cabling to the drive at each end ? - remove & replace.

Have you tried another ribbon cable?

Have you removed the drive in Device Manager and rebooted to redetect and install ?
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Even shutting down the computer fails to stop the drive
If all of the above fail to resolve the problem I suspect the drive is failing - may be a dirty laser or something deeper. New drives are so cheap this may be the best route to follow.

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CD DVD drive accessing fault


Sorry I should have added all those points in my first post. The disc will work in other machines. Occassionally the discs just keep accessing. The same disc will be ok next time the computer is up and running again after reset. The problem is to find some way to stop computer keep accessing the disc - its trying to read and not completing some task which stops the OS from shutting down. I've tried locating what task the machine is running in task manager to stop the process without success. Eject button doesn't work. Windows explorer - eject button on drive doesn't work. It may be the drivers or something but what I really want to know is how to stop the process or task - The drive will stop after computer is reset and then eject button works but I don't like the OS system not shutting down properly. These are DVD data discs - lots of data and sometimes the computer just foesn't read them and won't stop the process of trying to access the disc

Cables all seem fine. I use a cleaner and then the drives ok But I'd like to stop the disc accesss when I know its not going to stop reading the disc.

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I understand what you are seeking to achieve, but, to be honest, do not have an answer beyond what you do now - hit the reset button.

I can detect no additional process running when a CD/DVD is accessed - if there is one it may well be in an instance of svchost.exe.

You may get a clue from running Process Explorer

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to stop cd/DVD accessing disc.


Thanks. Thats helpful. I also remember something about changing how long the computer will wait on shutdown to stop processes not responding - possibly changing that to a shorter period of time may help matters and stop accessing the disc.

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Is this what you had in mind ? ....

http://dx-xel.net/2007/06/xp-registr...down-time.html

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Speed up - windows shutdown sequence


That's it. I wonder if the operating system considers the disc access a non responsive process? Regardless this is helpful in speeding up the shut down process. I'm going to try it and next time the disc plays up Hopefully the computer will kill the disc access and shutdown.

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Please post back on the outcome - good or bad - this is an interesting problem

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I will post back the outcome. I plan to do a few DVD Data backups - I do a lot of video editing and backup files on DVD and sometime accessing them I get the problem we discussed. I will be doing the backups over the next day or so, so I should have the problem crop up again. I've edited the registry to shut down faster - I had done this previously but noticed your link suggested even lower periods for timeout and a few more devices/processes. So this should shorten my shutdown even further.

Something I have noticed which makes disc accessing faster - the computer may remember the disc -windows explorer that is, and if I requested thumbnails on all files - and the disc has lots of video files -this definately slows access up and could be part of the problem.

eg a list of files instead of icons thumbnails etc speeds up access.

Drive is about two years old. Maybe newer faster drives can read the entire disc faster 4.7gb

Anyway I post the result in a day or so.

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Nope! Disc access does not shut down on shutting down windows. This process is not considered a processs that is not responding. I waiting far too long so hit the reset button - only after I was sure all OS files were written to the hard drive otherwise OS problems would result. I wonder if there is anything in the registry that could do something? or running a line of code?

The above link sure speeds up windows shutting down.

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This is a bit of a mystery

Have you tried disabling thumbnails as a trial ? - W Explorer > Tools > Folder Options > View > Do not cache thumbnails.

I'm asking for an assist on this so watch out for further comments.

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I put a blank disc into the drive so that I could burn a Data DVD as a backup of video files - so this time the drive had a blank disc. After reset the same disc worked OK and I burnt the disc.

The drive's driver is upto date. Could be the drive is on its way out - but the trick is to find some way of sending a signal to the drive to stop the accessing. A floppy drive will detect if there is no disc,:confused so a cd drive should somehow detect if its not reading or its taking too long trying to read something.

Maybe a line of code on the run command?

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Just some questions first. If you have the disk in the drive, but do not access the disk, does it shut down the same way?

Do you close down all your programs before you shut down? If a program thinks a file from the disk has been changed, it will want to save the changes in the file.

Try disabling any checking programs like Antivirus or Antispyware before shutting down and see if there is a difference.

You mention that the disks cannot be read sometimes. Try using a different brand of blank disk. Look for a firmware update for the drive.

You mentioned the drivers, the drivers involved would be IDE Controller drivers and/or the chipset (motherboard) drivers.

Do you happen to have Nero, and in particular, InCD installed? That can cause headaches sometimes.

If you use DVD-R disks, it might prefer DVD+R or visa-versa (check the recommendation for the drive at the manufacturer's website). It might also be a problem if the disk is not "finalised".

Look for any "drive" programs that might be installed. Programs for running some flash/micro drives can cause problems.

Do you have any form of file encryption enabled?

Mmmm, see what happens by going into Safe Mode and accessing the disk. Is it reliable, etc, there?

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You might have something there. InCD and nero to make Data disks.

Don't have anything running in the background such as anti-virus. I don't believe in any unneccessary processes - updates spyware etc. I do everything manually. No other programs.

I try to have a system that doesn't interfere with video as much as possible.

I kill msmesenger every time I start up - although I have uninstalled the stupid thing.


So Nero and InCD - if you know anything about those and how to fix it.

My drive prefers DVD + R and for the majority of the time continues to function all OK but occassionally a disc just keeps on accessing.

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You mention the drive is about two years old. What versions of InCD and Nero are you using? And, is this a single layer or a dual layer drive? For starters, I'd uninstall InCD and if you use that program occasionally, re-install it. If you don't use it, then leave it on the shelf. I'm not sure this is the cause of your problem but its a good first step.


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