use 440BX motherboard, that POWER supply is 300W.

Hi, I am use 440BX motherboard, that POWER supply is 300W.

Now I changed to new computer:

P4 Celeron 420 motherboard, (VGA, LAN, SOUND) must on-board,

Q1: but if can BOOT computer, 1x128MB is enough?
Q2: that 440BX POWER supply (300w) can continue to used ?

only device:
1x Ext.Comm Modem
1x 10GB (IDE) Harddisk
1x 20GB (IDE) Harddisk
1x DVD Writer

Please idea me!
Thanks a lot.

 

thanks. but would you mind to tell me what is Power Supply standard?
why now P4 motherboard is used 24pin ? I check now 440BX is used 20pin ?

what is addon 4pin ?


and must over 512MB ram , can turn-on / BOOT computer ?
now is used 128MB, PII 233Mhz , this is XP min req.


and I will selected this : Intel Celeron 420 (1.6GHz)/LGA775/64BIT/512K

buy motherboard, how to selected what clip ? RAM is DDR, DDR2?...
i865g-SOCKET775/
i945gc-SOCKET775 ?


:becuase my 440BX is used over 7 years. But now buy new again...
all hardware terms I can not understand...

Please!

 

It is best to buy a 24-pin ATX power supply for that motherboard. 126MB of RAM is too little to run WinXP. What is the brand and model number of the new motherboard?

 

Yes, I have this 256x2 = RAM

Description: 256MB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL3 (3-3-3) DIMM
Detailed Specifications: Standard 32M X 64 Non-ECC 400MHz 184-pin Unbuffered DIMM (SDRAM-DDR, 2.6V, CL3, Gold) (Datasheet)
Mfgr's System P/N's: N/A
Form Factor: Memory Module
Pieces/Unit: 1
Warranty: Lifetime†

http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...//www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR400X64C3A/256


I hope to used this

Intel® Celeron® Processor 420
Remove
Processor NumberΔ 420
Architecture 65 nanometer
L2 Cache 512 KB
L3 Cache NA
Clock Speed 1.60 GHz
Front Side Bus 800 MHz
Other Intel Technologies Execute Disable Bit º,
Intel® 64Ø
Package FC-LGA
Chipset NA
Desktop Boards NA
Slot/Socket Type LGA775
Min-Max Operating Voltage NA
sSpec Number SL9XP

http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=886892&familyID=3&culture=en-US

Now, can you suggest me how to selected that "motherboard" CHIPS ?
what chips is stable ?

Please!

 

This is one of the only motherboards still being manufactured that might fill your requirements:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=4CoreDual-SATA2

It also has the ability to run DDR2 as well as DDR RAM (either, not together)
AND
it can run AGP graphics or PCI-e graphics (but no built-in graphics). You would need to get an AGP (8X, maybe 4X would work) or PCI-e graphics card.

The VIA chipset should be very satisfactory.

Where would you order the motherboard from? Search at their website for the terms 775 along with DDR (make certain it will run the Celeron CPU).

Matt

 

Hello, I have problem.


I check my power supply is

SPI SPARKLE POWER INT'L LTD
MODEL NO: FSP250-61GT
INPUT: 115/230V ~ 8/14A - 60/50-Hz
OUTPUT: 250W

+3.3V = 14.0A
+5Vsb = 0.8A
+5V = 25.0A
-5V = 0.3A
+12V = 8.0A
-12V = 0.8A

FUSE RATING: 6.3A , 250V

To motherboard cable, 20pin.

But this power machine data , is safe to use P4 Computer?

Please!

 

I certainly agree.

For whatever motherboard you choose, if you read the manual, you will probably find they recommend at least 350W (or expect you would use a PSU that has "Pentium 4" capability, that is, the 24 pin connectors).

A good quality PSU will have twice that (16 A) and more.

The extra 4 pins is additional power for the CPU. I doubt the system will run without them.

If you tried to run your current PSU, I think you will risk damaging the PSU and/or the computer hardware.

[A note about the CPU...If it is not "brand new ", you will need to apply thermal compound between the CPU and the heatsink.]

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Visee, a main point is that your original machine is over 7 years old. You can usually find compatible parts for upgrade up until about 4 years.

I would expect the 440BX had PC133 type RAM, you have found DDR type RAM, but motherboards are no longer being made for that type of RAM. DDR3 will be in circulation soon.

The only parts that are probably transferable from the 440BX are the drives. I expect you will find that those HDDs are a little slow and noisy compared to recent models. Next time you upgrade most drives will be SATA based (IDE controllers are disappearing from motherboards).

I like upgrading. I buy parts (especially the motherboard) that are upgradeable and after a few years, see what can be upgraded. If you leave it too long, the parts will no longer be available, example PC133 -> DRR -> DDR2 -> DDR3 RAM; AGP -> PCI-e graphics; IDE -> SATA drives; model changes in CPUs.

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Back to the PSU, if you try to use it, you might risk damaging the equipment.

Matt

 

Hi, I found new POWER SUPPLY again. that special is:

Latitude ATK SWITCHING POWER SUPPLY
AC I/P: VOL: 115/230V
~CUR:8/4A
MAX FREQ: 60~50Hz

DC O/P =300WP4
+3.3V = 20A
+5V = 30A
+12V = 10A
-5V = 0.5A
-12V = 0.8A
+5VsB = 2A


This is (20pin + 4pin) Pen 4 OKE.

Now I known it, that stock is 20pin, and 4pin; is not 24pin...?



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But my last 7 years, that 440BX , 233MHz, 128MB RAM (PC100/66), 10GB+20GB(IDE4) HDD, 1x/2x

AGP display card + DVD 16x writer + WXP sp2 pro, This config is very stable it.

I can easy to completed that word/excel/powerpoint/photoshop7/autocad2000/visal studio 6/

That program is runing is slow, but I can completed that job.

440BX is very stable...?!



But I can not see now CPU chips which is stable ?

and Intel® Celeron® Processor 420 = 1.6GHZ ?

that 1.6GHz must faster than 233MHz ? as same as open word/excel... speed?


now that display card. if selected on-board display, is equal my AGP1X/2X(16MB) that display qty?


and if so lucky, Buy new config (CPU +RAM +Motherboard(Sound/LAN/Display onboard) +HDD) is used more than 7years again?

 

It will run a basic system, but don't expect to add many drives or upgrade much other hardware. [The motherboard manual may still recommend a more powerful PSU.]

Visee, you are "upgrading" to a system that might be approximately 2003, you are not purchasing a new computer, you are rebuilding an old computer. Remember what I said about 4 years old? If you use it again for another 7 years, do you think you will need to replace most/all of the hardware again??

Stable? An Intel CPU on an Intel motherboard I term "more stable" than other combinations.

1.6Ghz vs 233Mhz equals 1600 vs 233.

Graphics...find out about "on board APG graphics" vs an add-in AGP graphics card. The latest motherboards will only take 8X or maybe, 4X cards.

You will need to do your own research. Put the hardware model numbers in a websearch. [I cannot fit several years of hardware information into this thread.....................teach yourself ]

Matt

 

Thanks...Is oke.

But I can not see what device must write-off ?
Harddisk 10G+20G is oke and 90% good life.
DVD Writter is good to burn.
USB Flash Device is best of kings...

but that (LAN/Sound/VGA)...that basic function can fine/enough...


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But some tech-word, would you mind to tell me ...

I go to that computer shop, that salesman sale to me. Core2Duo ?

(a) basic use winxp sp2 + word/excel.... need "Core2Duo" function ?

(b) he ask me that PSU must over 400W , need buy 400W ?
I have only (
Motherboard x 1
RAM x 1
CPU x 1
HDD x 2,
DVD Writer x 1
FDD x 1,
Ext. Modem x 1
USB (Flash Device, Keyb, Mouse) x 1
USB (Scanner/Printer)....but that device is used ext.power !



400W ? too more ?


(C) he suggest me , to selected SiS Chips... he said Inter Chips / VIA is maybe not stable ?
SiS is doing macro-computer , SiS tech is very good!?
Smile!

 

Yes, but still old and disk access will be slower and noisier than a modern drive.

Yes, the new motherboard should have built-in sound and LAN.

If you are going to get MS Office 2003 and run other programs at the same time, the Core2Duo will help. If you are going to keep running your old programs or are happy with not "multitasking ", the Celeron would "chug along" OK. The Core2Duo is what you would need if you updated your programs and wanted to run several at once.

Those items may not have very high power requirements now, but if you update/upgrade the power requirement will increase. If you get the Core2Duo I say you will need 2 modules of DDR2 RAM. If you use those 2 X 256Mb DDR RAM, the Core2Duo functions will be wasted, you won't be able to load many programs to begin with. Yes, I think you should get a 400W PSU and not a generic/cheap one. I am using CoolerMaster PSUs at the moment and they are working well. You will probably find a generic/cheap PSU will only last a fraction of the time a decent quality one would anyway.

One thing I like about VIA over SiS is the support offered at their website. VIA has excellent support, updated drivers and a good knowledgebase and also a forum. SiS are fine and seem to be improving their support. [Macro computing is not going to help you with your home computer.]

As I said, I don't think you will find a more stable combination than an Intel CPU on an Intel chipset motherboard. You said your 440BX was very stable (maybe slow, but still stable).

You should not worry too much about stability if you are just going to run basic tasks. If you wanted "speed ", ran big/heavy programs or tried overclocking, then you may lose stability.

Matt