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Old 28th November 2004   #1
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Installed new hard drive and now "ntldr" is missing message?


Installed new hard drive running xp, and keep getting "ntldr" is missing message? Hard drive is 80 GB Maxtor 7200rpm t/m ultra ata/133 8mb cache. Old one crashed, Can anyone help i tried microsofts solution but will not work? What am i doing wrong? I followed instruction and ran cd provided.

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What are your bios settings? and is this a second harddrive ur adding in as a slave?

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Do any of the following apply to the old drive;

1. Bios overlay installed?

2. GoGack installed?

3. Dual boot set up?

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How did you reinstall XP to the new drive? If you didn't reinstall XP but merely used the cloning disk that came with the new drive, you cloned a crashed system and it will still need to be repaired. Probably a repair install would do but it may require a full clean install.

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you dont need a dual boot up set up, unless you have 2 OS on the same system. Like i have, I have Fedora on one, and XP on the other drive.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBeGoode
Installed new hard drive running xp, and keep getting "ntldr" is missing message? Hard drive is 80 GB Maxtor 7200rpm t/m ultra ata/133 8mb cache. Old one crashed, Can anyone help i tried microsofts solution but will not work? What am i doing wrong? I followed instruction and ran cd provided.
Did you do a complete reinstall of Windows XP? Which Microsoft solution did you try? Take us through the process you followed so it is more clear.

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Ok some more information. I am complete newbie here! I took old hard drive out and put new one in! One hardrive only I loaded the cd that came with it and followed instruction i took the easy roote and let it partion and everything. Then i tried and put the xp cd in i had and it gives me the "Ntldr" is missing message.

BIOS settings? I changed it so it boots cd rom first, is that what you mean?

1. Bios overlay installed?

2. GoGack installed?

3. Dual boot set up ....I have no answers to any of this? How do i find out?

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It sounds like your cd-rom drive isn't bootable. You get the "NTLDR" error since that's XP's standard error when there is no OS installed on the primary drive. That's why I asked all those other questions. I was wanting to make sure we had all the gory details. Some of the older dual boot systems altered the MBR on the primary drive. I also needed to know if you had any other drives connected and if they may have overlays installed to work around some bios issue. Then I also needed to know if you ever had GoBack installed since it modifies the MBR on the boot drive, but that would apply only if you had a second drive hooked up and it was set "Active."

It appears that none of that applies so we can move forward with the new information you have given.

I recommend that you get a boot disk and install using it instead of trying to boot the install CD, which apparently isn't going to work. With a good boot disk, you can work around that issue, which is probably hardware related. I'm assuming the cd-rom drive works but just isn't bootable. It must work or else you couldn't have read the Maxtor cd.

Get this XP Bootdisk creation file. Download it and run it. Follow the screen directions to allow it to create an XP Bootdisk for you. I assume you have a floppy drive and a blank floppy. If not you'll need to get some friend to DL it for you.
When you get the boot disk created, put it in the drive bay of the ailing box and boot from it. You may need to reset the bios to allow the floppy to read prior to the HD.
Follow the screen directions to do an XP install. It has all the tools you will need for the job. I would suggest that you format the disk once again just to be sure where you stand.

Post back if any ??

ps. I noticed your other thread in XP. Don't post there any more since it's probably going to get locked out. Posting the same problem in more than one area is frowned upon on this board.


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Thank you very much for your reply Surfer Dude, sorry for posting twice but i thought i had posted in wrong area.

I will try and dl your boot disks, thank you fro providing!

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JohnnyBeGoode, Let's not overlook the obvious either. Perhaps you didn't save the BIOS settings after selecting to boot the cd-rom drive first. Take a look in there again to see if it "stuck."

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ok a couple of further questions? What should my Bios settings be? Do you mean my boot up order? That i saved for sure or is there more to it.

I ran disk that i created from your dl. changed dir and ran winnt.exe file.

Now i get this message. An interal setup error has occured could not find a place for a swap file. settup cannot contine...

????

I cannot see my c: anymore is that a problem. ?

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Obviously your hard drive has a problem. Look on the cd that came with it for a diagnostic tool. If found, run it to verify that the drive is in usable condition. If no problems are indicated, repeat the partition and format procedure to ensure that you have an 80 gig hard drive ready for an install.

I'm intentionally ignoring your other questions for the moment to keep things clearer. We'll answer those later if need be.

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Makes me wonder. Have you checked/set the jumpers on the drive? If you have two drives connected to the IDE (ribbon) cable, that new drive should be set as Master, the other drive should be set as Slave.
You could try setting the jumpers for both drives as Cable Select, let us know if you would like to try that (you may need to arrange them on the cable).
Go into the BIOS/CMOS settings at startup. See what the "Configuration" menu says for your drives. If your BIOS menu has "Detect Hard Drives", run that, otherwise check in the configuration menu that "Master on IDE 0" is set to "Auto".

The Maxtor diagnostic tool is PowerMax. (Avoid installing EZ-BIOS if at all possible!! )

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Again guys thx for the help, I am learning alot here. Just to prove i am newbie! There should only be 2 cables attached to hardive right.

What shoud the jumper switches be and how do you chnage that?

In Bios it shows my hard drive as bing there. I only have the one.

I ran an ide dps selftest and it said Test Succeeded completion code 0
drive info. 81.9 location primary 0

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