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Changing Linksys Router IP address

Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by bstarr, 2006/08/14.

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    bstarr

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    Linksys Router wrt54g.

    I am told I can reconfigure the router to share an internet dial-up connection, but I have to change the IP address. I can't figure out how that is done.

    How can I access the router settings after install to change the default IP address? Is there a way to access the configuration or do I have to uninstall then reinstall and do it during the install?

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    Miz

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    Linksys routers use Internet Explorer for their interface.

    Open Internet Explorer (Firefox will also works) and in the address bar type "192.168.1.1" (without the quotes) and click the GO button (or press the Enter key on the keyboard).

    Either enter the username and password you created when you set it up or, if you didn't change the password from the default, leave the username field blank and enter "admin" (without the quotes) as the password, click OK.
     
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    viking

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    You have a dial up ISP or broadband ?
    1. to share any internet account , whether dial up or broadband you can use ICS (internet connection sharing) that has been built into windows since win98se.
    2. I seriuosly doubt that your router has the hardware to do dial up
    3. actually sharing dial up with ICS is going to be brutally painfull, since the other pc will cut your dial up bandwidth in half.
    4. the pc that is the ICS host will have to be on
     
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    Almost all modern routers have a system called NAT, that will do this for you. The IP addressing will be sorted for you out of the box. Therefore, if you have brought this from someone else, I would recommend resetting it to factory default and running through the standard installation procedure. Instructions to do this are supplied with new routers or you can down load this information from the Linksys website.
     
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    ????????????????

    I may be way off base here but I do have to try.

    I do not see any need for ICS. If you do indeed have a Router then there should be no need to share anthing.

    You should be able to set each machine up individually so it does not depend on the other for Internet.

    I have three machines plugged into a Linksys Router and each is 100% independent. Each has its' own cable plugged into the Router.

    The Router and Modem should be fed from a separate power source so that they do remain on.

    But as viking mentioned. Dial up may be differrent. I have cable.

    BillyBob
     
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    viking

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    You missed the whole point, they said they had "dial up" If in fact they do, the only way dial up can be shared is employing ICS. I seriously doubt thier router supports dial up, unless it is 5 or more years old and even then they were rare.
     
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    I do not believe I missed the point. I believe you missed this line.
    BillyBob
     
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    I believe there will be some sort of conflict w/ ICS & the router. Both ICS & the router use NAT, thus the complexity will be in configure DHCP (nat) on or off on one of the 2.
     
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    viking

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    I think the router only uses NAT between the WAN and LAN ports. I did not think ICS used NAT, I know that ICS uses a DHCP like process to issue ip addresses. That might cause a bigger disturbance on the network, so i would turn off DHCP in the router. ICS also uses the default ip address scheme of 169.xxx.xxx.xxx, in the earlier versions of windows you could set the ip to whatever you wanted , in xp you can not.
     
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    Again I have cable so things may well be quite different with Dial-Up. And I may be LEARNING here also.

    I May be just guessing but I do not see why they can not be set up separately so that one does not depend on the other.

    When I set up my machines I did it one machine at a time. The machine I was working with was the only one on. The other two were not even powered up. I did the Printer setup the same way. Only one machine at a time.

    I must add here that it does take a Special Networkable printer to do this. I have an HP Deskjet 5850. I love it. I just need to remember to leave it, the Router and the Modem powered up.

    In my setup. Each machine with its own NIC is 100% indepenent of the other. But I can and have had them all online at the same time. Again, Dial-Up maybe can't do that.

    Mch1 |
    Mch2 |---Router--Cable Modem
    Mch3 |
    Prntr |

    Even if the Internet goes down I can still get between the machines.

    BillyBob
     
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    viking

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    billybob thorton that is right, you have broadband the poster does not, they want to use dial up. The poster will need to use ICS , turn off dhcp in the router. if that does not work they will have to use a hub.
     
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    Thoughts and questions only. Or I may be missing ( mis-understanding )something.

    OK. Dial-up may well be ( quite ) different.

    But I do see why each machine still can not be set up individually. The modem is ( as far as I know ) after the Router which only provides the capability to connect more than one machine to the Modem. ( WAN ) ( plus the capability to connect the machines ( LAN )) Maybe you can not connect more than one machine at a time online the way I do though. You may need to go just one at a time.

    Unless I am 100% wrong ICS is used between machines. Which again with the Router should net be needed. At least I do not think so.

    BillyBob
     
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    viking

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    billybob, billybob,billybob,

    right , the modem( broadband, not dial up) is B4 the router on the routers WAN port, then the workstations are on the LAN ports. The router implements something called NAT ( net address translation) . Most ISPs give you one and only one IP address to access the internet with. If you just have one workstation hooked up to the modem that is fine. If you have some appliance like a hub, that does not implement NAT, that is bad. The first workstation to grab the IP from your isp will access the internet the rest connected to the non NAT device will not. So basically NAT takes the ip addresses on the LAN and uses the one WAN ip to access the internet. NAT keeps trak of what lan ip requested what. Now for dial up. Along long,long,long,long , long time ago some routers had the capability to do dial up, now they do not , just broadband. So that means that you will have to use an external modem connected to a LAN PC or a modem in a LAN pc,,, still with me Billybob , So that one workstation dials into it's ISP, so how are you going to get the internet connection onto the other PC's ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????..... I C S . Ics implements a dhcp server that hands out ip addresses to all the workstations, so if you have dhcp enabled in the router you want to turn dhcp off. You probably can use the router or a hub, or even a cross over cable if just 2 workstations, you also have to make sure you have obtain an ip address automatically is checked in tcp/ip props.
    Late flashing news...you may not be able to use the router. In older versions of windows you could configure the ip address that ICS uses, in XP I hear it is not possible and ICS uses the default windows ip of 169.xxx.xxx.xxx , so some routers you can fully configure the WAN ip range some only the last 2 octets.:D
     
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    ?????????? I do not understand/agree with that.

    I just pulled the power from my Modem. Of course no Internet but I could still see the other two machine via MSHome. And many times when we lost Cable we had no Internet or TV but could still play games between machines to pass the time away.

    So that tells me that the Router is B4 the Modem. ( going out anyway )

    BillyBob
     
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    Before you two fall out - it looks like Viking is looking at the network from the internet and BillyBob is looking from the network out to the internet. This is the cause of the confusion with B4.

    When a PC is running ICS it is acting as a router. You need either ICS or a router to share an intenet connection.

    You can still get dial-up routers if you need one. For example the Cisco 805. They are still useful for remote dial-in and back-up.

    However, my guess is that the original poster is using "dial-up" to mean a broadband connection connecting over a phone line. While this isn't technically correct it is a common mistake to make. Many people refer to initiating an ADSL connection as a dial-up process.
     
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    ReggieB

    I do believe you hit the nail right square on the head. We were looking at the situation from different angles.

    BillyBob
     
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    ephemarial

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    Will just stick with common home stuff. Dial up modems not made for net-working. Either internal or external they just connect to or are a part of a single computer, no provision for connecting to WAN port of router.

    Config is: computer w/ modem, hooked up to telephone line "“ nice stand alone setup.

    Then thru NIC card or Wireless - network that computer with bunch of others thru a router.

    We have a network where 1 computer has a dial up modem.

    Sooo "“ problem is: how do we share a dial-up connection n tell computer 1 (with modem attached) to puleeze dial-up n connect to internet from computer 2?

    You can’t "“ at least without other software.

    ICS may work if computer 1 already connected to internet. Never tried it in that config.
    Was easier to use a splitter n also run telephone line to computer 2.
    With wireless router, laptop, n software like pcanywhere (or whatever) guess you can do it.
    Only problem with that software "“ you’re using computer 1 remotely "“ so not really sharing anything.

    However "“ original poster just asked how to change IP address "“ was promptly ans by Miz telling how todo that - since then "“ interesting thread.
     
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