How to get back to workstation status from server?

I cannot access one of my XP machines. I keep getting a popup box that says:

"\\COMPUTERNAME is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. Logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer. "

I *think* the keyword here is SERVER. How do I NOT make the machine in question a server? I never (knowingly) configured it as such, and cannot find out how to "un-server" it. It just needs to be a workstation like the rest, as I am using a combination DSL/router for DNS resolution.

TIA!

Russ

 

XP doesn't have a server version so you couldn't have done it.

Are you on a Peer-to-Peer network (as in no domain controllers)?

 

Yes Newt, a simple network - no domain, just workgroup with 4 'puters. I can ping the machine in question, but that's all I can do. IPCONFIG shows one difference with the "good" machine: "IP Routing Enabled = No" on the working box and "IP Routing Enabled = Yes" on the problem box...


Russ

 

Well, I have that one computer out of 10,000 that just has to be different! I CAN get on ANY of my boxes and ping ANY of the others just fine, I just CANNOT access my main XP box from the other boxes. Oddly, I CAN access the XP laptop from the '98 boxes just fine! Below may shed some light on the problem. If you'll note, my main XP box shows a DOMAIN name, but no WORKGROUP name! If I right-click on "My Computer and go to the "properties / Computer Name" tab, it shows correctly as Full computer name: XXXX; Workgroup: ZZZZZZZ


Here's the "Computer Information" from my network troubleshooter. I've masked my info for safety, and put marks by what I THINK are problems, but do not have a clue as to how to undo them:

Computer Information
___Computer System XXXX
___AdminPasswordStatus = 3 ---------------------------?
___AutomaticResetBootOption = FALSE
___AutomaticResetCapability = TRUE
___BootOptionOnLimit = (empty)
___BootOptionOnWatchDog = (empty)
___BootROMSupported = TRUE
___BootupState = Normal boot
___Caption = XXXX
___ChassisBootupState = 3
___CreationClassName = Win32_ComputerSystem
___CurrentTimeZone = -300
___DaylightInEffect = TRUE
___Description = AT/AT COMPATIBLE
___Domain = ZZZZZZZ -------------------------------(should not be a domain)
___DomainRole = 0
___EnableDaylightSavingsTime = TRUE
___FrontPanelResetStatus = 3
___InfraredSupported = FALSE
___InitialLoadInfo = (empty)
___InstallDate = (empty)
___KeyboardPasswordStatus = 3
___LastLoadInfo = (empty)
___Manufacturer = System Manufacturer
___Model = System Name
___Name = XXXX
___NameFormat = (empty)
___NetworkServerModeEnabled = TRUE ---------------------should NOT be?
___NumberOfProcessors = 1
___OEMStringArray
______0
______0
___PartOfDomain = FALSE
___PauseAfterReset = -1
___PowerManagementCapabilities = (empty)
___PowerManagementSupported = (empty)
___PowerOnPasswordStatus = 3
___PowerState = 0
___PowerSupplyState = 3
___PrimaryOwnerContact = (empty)
___PrimaryOwnerName = XXXX
___ResetCapability = 1
___ResetCount = -1
___ResetLimit = -1
___Roles
______LM_Workstation
______LM_Server
______Print
______NT
______Potential_Browser
______Master_Browser ----------------------------------------?
___Status = OK
___SupportContactDescription
______Mfg: AsusTek
______Web: http://www.asus.com/
______BIOS: 10/28/2002-I845PE/ICH4/IT8708-P4PE
______File: p4pe1005
______(empty)
___SystemStartupDelay = 10
___SystemStartupOptions
______ "Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
______ "Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
___SystemStartupSetting = 0
___SystemType = X86-based PC
___ThermalState = 3
___TotalPhysicalMemory = 1073184768
___UserName = XXXX\Administrator
___WakeUpType = 6
___Workgroup = (empty) ---------------------------------(should be ZZZZZZZ)


Does anybody know how to:

Get the "domain =" from "ZZZZZZZ" to (empty) and the "Workgroup =" from (empty) to "ZZZZZZZ" ???

Ditch the "NetworkServerModeEnabled = TRUE" setting ???

I've stumbled around and somehow got rid of the "Master_Browser" setting, but that didn't help. I CANNOT even "View workgroup computers" from my main (XP) box! I keep getting:

"ZZZZZZZ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available. "

There's that word "server" again! I think somehow this box got configured wrong, although I've repeatedly tried mirroring the config on my XP laptop and still have had no luck.

Russ

 

I have no idea about some of the "network troubleshooting" information either. But a few thoughts here.

Ip routing should be enabled on an ICS host PC. Or any other PC you have acting as a router between subnets. With your setup though - using a router/switch, none should have it enabled.

Domain vs. workgroup - if you look at at the computer name (right-click my computer and then properties) you should be able to see if it is using a domain name or workgroup name. If those are as they should be, I'd ignore the other.

Access denied is most likely to be a logon issue. XP should only give access to a computer that
1. Is logged on with a username AND password (non-blank password)
2. Is known to the XP PC.
... Guest account is enabled so any logon/password has access
... Username/password is in the local users list for the PC
... All PCs are using the exact same username/password to logon.

You don't give specifics on the XP version but the Guest account is enabled by default at install with XP Home and disabled by default with XP Pro (and NT & 2K) since it can pose a security risk.

If this doesn't allow you to fix your connection problems then please do ipconfig /all > c:\ipsettings.txt on both your XP boxes and post those results here. No need to mask anything since it is either private and can't be seen from the internet or is public (the IP config info provided by an ISP). Or mask if it makes you feel better but know that something useful may be hidden that way. And don't mask the internal (LAN) information at all.

While you are at it, also from both XP PCs and a cmd window,
route print > c:\route.txt and post that information.

 

Newt,

Bless you for helping out this old DA (dumb-@$$)! I was kinda hoping someone would run their network troubleshooter and compare their readings with mine as far as "Computer System" goes. Here's the info you requested, formatted as best as I could do it for legibility. Only one line from each section is wrapped.

This is the "route.txt" from my main (uncooperative) XP box:

==================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 e0 18 b3 a8 fc ...... ASUSTeK/Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport

==================================================
Active Routes:

Network
Destination_____Netmask_________Gateway_______Interface__Metric
0.0.0.0_________0.0.0.0_________192.168.1.254_192.168.1.1___30
127.0.0.0_______255.0.0.0_______127.0.0.1_____127.0.0.1______1
192.168.1.0_____255.255.255.0___192.168.1.1___192.168.1.1___30
192.168.1.1_____255.255.255.255_127.0.0.1_____127.0.0.1_____30
192.168.1.255___255.255.255.255_192.168.1.1___192.168.1.1___30
224.0.0.0_______240.0.0.0_______192.168.1.1___192.168.1.1___30
255.255.255.255_255.255.255.255_192.168.1.1___192.168.1.1____1

Default Gateway: 192.168.1.254

==================================================
Persistent Routes:

None


...and the "ipsettings.txt ":

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name___________________: RUSS
Primary Dns Suffix_____________:
Node Type___________________: Unknown
IP Routing Enabled_____________: Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled___________: Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix __:
Description__________________ : ASUSTeK/Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
Physical Address _____________: 00-E0-18-B3-A8-FC
Dhcp Enabled________________: No
IP Address___________________: 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask_________________: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway______________: 192.168.1.254
DNS Servers_________________: 192.168.1.254

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Then there's my XP laptop that works fine getting to and from all other machines, including the Win'98 boxes. Here's the "route.txt" from it:

==================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ... .00 0b cd 56 5b 87 .... HP WLAN 54g W450 Network Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x40003 .00 08 02 d5 29 bd .... Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport

==================================================
Active Routes:

Network
Destination_____Netmask_________Gateway_______Interface__Metric
0.0.0.0_________0.0.0.0_________192.168.1.254_192.168.1.4___30
0.0.0.0_________0.0.0.0_________192.168.1.254_192.168.1.2___30
127.0.0.0_______255.0.0.0_______127.0.0.1_____127.0.0.1______1
192.168.1.0_____255.255.255.0___192.168.1.2___192.168.1.2___30
192.168.1.0_____255.255.255.0___192.168.1.4___192.168.1.4___30
192.168.1.2_____255.255.255.255_127.0.0.1_____127.0.0.1_____30
192.168.1.4_____255.255.255.255_127.0.0.1____ 127.0.0.1_____30
192.168.1.255___255.255.255.255_192.168.1.2___192.168.1.2___30
192.168.1.255___255.255.255.255_192.168.1.4___192.168.1.4___30
224.0.0.0_______240.0.0.0_______192.168.1.2___192.168.1.2___30
224.0.0.0_______240.0.0.0_______192.168.1.4___192.168.1.4___30
255.255.255.255_255.255.255.255_192.168.1.2___192.168.1.2____1
255.255.255.255_255.255.255.255_192.168.1.4___192.168.1.4____1

Default Gateway: 192.168.1.254
==================================================
Persistent Routes:

None



...and the "ipsettings.txt ":

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name____________________: presario
Primary Dns Suffix______________:
Node Type____________________: Unknown
IP Routing Enabled_____________: No
WINS Proxy Enabled____________: Yes

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix __:
Description___________________: HP WLAN 54g W450 Network Adapter
Physical Address______________: 00-0B-CD-56-5B-87
Dhcp Enabled_________________: No
IP Address___________________: 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask_________________: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway______________: 192.168.1.254
DNS Servers_________________: 192.168.1.254

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix __:
Description___________________: Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address______________: 00-08-02-D5-29-BD
Dhcp Enabled_________________: No
IP Address___________________: 192.168.1.4
Subnet Mask_________________: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway______________: 192.168.1.254
DNS Servers_________________: 192.168.1.254

As you can see, the IP Routing is "enabled" on the bad boy and "disabled" on the box that works. My (XP boxes) router IP addresses are hand set, as are the gateways. I tried doing this on the '98 boxes and could not get to my "internet ", so had to undo that. The laptop runs with or without the ethernet cable, depending on where I am located, but can and does connect either way (not bridged, though). I find it rather bizarre that all machines will ping each other, but have such a problem actually communicating.

Oh, and the reason I hand set the addy's is because I use a "HOST" and LMHOST" file to block out spammers and wanted to code in my own IP addy's so the boxes will see each other. I haven't figured out how to add ranges to the HOST file, so I have them hard coded:

# Necessary IP's for home network:

#192.168.1.1____RUSS_______________#Russ Ethernet___XP
#192.168.1.2____PRESARIO___________#Compaq Wireless_XP
#192.168.1.254__Cayman-DSLxxxxxxxx__#Cayman Router
#192.168.1.3____SCOTT______________#Scott Wireless___'98
#192.168.1.4____PRESARIO___________#Compaq Ethernet_XP
#192.168.1.5____PROSTAR____________#Prostar Wireless__'98


Thanks!

Russ

 

Well - no Ah Ha - there is the problem entries in there, maybe. I do have to say this is an interesting problem and I'm having run with it. You probably aren't but I am.

First off, the route print information all looks good, normal, as it should be.

The Ipconfig information is fine with two exceptions.

- The IP forwarding entry on the problem machine should not be there and may well be causing or at least helping cause your problem. I can't find any way other than the PC having been set up as an ICS host for that setting to be on. And I can't find any easy way to turn it off. More on that in a minute.

- The WINS Proxy Enabled setting is not needed for your network but I don't really know if it is causing problems. WPA is designed to allow non-wins-aware PCs to participate on a domain where WINS servers handle all or part of the name <> address resolution. If a WPA enabled PC sees traffic from a non-wins-aware machine, it will take care of getting the needed information and pass it along. But you don't use WINS unless you have a very strange ISP. And even if you somehow did, all your PCs are WINS-aware and wouldn't need the WPA services.

Hosts file

- There is no way to use a range. You must specify each PC address & name. No other option.

- If yours really does look like what you posted, it isn't doing anything. A line or part of a line that begins with # is a comment and will be ignored. And while you probably put the _____ in for ease of formatting, if you somehow have them in the file, they will cause problems too.

- And a bad hosts file entry could cause the type of problem you are seeing. Probably not the issue here but it could.

Just in case, your hosts file should read like this (and be located differently on 9x and NT systems - otherwise it won't do anything. c:\windows on 9x and c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc on NT/2K/XP)

# Necessary IP's for home network:
#
# And note the variations on the PC names
# which should be done so you can find them
# no matter how you type the name

192.168.1.1 RUSS Russ russ #Russ Ethernet___XP
192.168.1.2 PRESARIO Presario presario #Compaq Wireless_XP
192.168.1.254 Cayman-DSLxxxxxxxx #Cayman Router
192.168.1.3 SCOTT Scott scott #Scott Wireless___'98
192.168.1.4 PRESARIO Presario presario #Compaq Ethernet_XP
192.168.1.5 PROSTAR Prostar prostar #Prostar Wireless__'98
127.0.0.1 LOCALHOST Localhost localhost #loopback not reqired but a good idea

I think at this point your best bet is to try putting the problem XP system back to default network settings and configure it again. Safe mode boot and remove the NIC from device manager. Shut down and remove the NIC. Reboot and shut down again. Reinsert the NIC and start the system so it finds the thing and you can set it up again. That should get rid of any odd ball stuff you have with it. But if somehow it still maintains that ip forwarding entry, you'll need to get a little more drastic.

 

Newt,

Thanks much for the reply! AS long as you're staying INTERESTED, I'll be only "mildly" unhappy.

The "__" were for legibility because most of these boards will only allow for one space and no tabs. I CANNOT believe I left the "#" in front of my IP's in the HOST file! It's been changed, but I'm not sure if it'll do any good. Even if I hard-code an IP address in my adapter settings, the Cayman always seems to give me something different. And it still works, even though the addy's are different.

Speaking of ICS sharing, I do not have the "advanced" tab on my adapter's property page, however, checking "Computer Management | Services" shows "Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)" to be on automatic and started. Can that be shutdown through services and not the (missing) tab?

This morning, I reset my file system to "use simple file and print sharing" because I don't seem to have permission to install a printer driver. It didn't help any, but I'm leaving it for now, until I can figure out how all these "permission" things work. Man, I am TRULY missing the old days of 3.0! Never in my life (then) could I ever imagine saying THAT!


Russ

 

Going back to your original error message, check the local security settings in XP. Note that the setting can be modified by a trojan.

Server is used in this context to describe a machine attempting to share or serve resources to clients.

 

Well Dorfmann, that little piece of information got my two XP boxes to see each other! Now if I can just get the '98 box to quit with the password prompt, everything will be cool again. By the way, that password prompt: I've typed everything I can think of and nothing is ever recognized as right. The box says $IPC or something to that effect...

Thanks!

Russ

 

Ras

That $IPC indicates XP does not identify the 98 machine. The 98 machine must be in the users of the XP.

A quick test will confirm this.

Go to 98 machine and log it off. Then log back on with exactly the same name and password that you used on the XP. EXACTLY!

You should now connect!

Mike

 

Mike, it sounded promising, but still didn't work. I'm still getting the $IPC logon box and have no clue what to type in it... I've tried many different passwords and nothing seems to work.

Here's something else to ponder on: On the '98 box, I can "search for computers" and locate my XP laptop "PRESARIO" and it shows PRESARIO for username and "ZZZZZZZ" for workgroup (or something to that effect) and I can access all the shared resources with no password mess. If I search for "RAS001" (my XP box), I get the username RAS001 and "unknown" for workgroup. Of course nothing works from here on out.

Thanks!

Russ

 

When you search for computers you search for computers not users.

So correct the workgroups on all to match, and the computer names to be unique.

On 98 it is in Network Neighborhood properties-Identification.

On XP it is in Control panel-System Network identification.

Reboot and recheck.

I am going to be up about 20-30 minutes then ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz.

Mike

 

Russ - Excellent that Dorfmann got you fixed up. I was having no luck at all finding the problem and he nailed it.

As Mike said, the IPC$ thing is always a matter of the XP system not knowing who the other PC is. And no username/password will work to connect at that point. At least, none I've ever found.

Critical points here

- the 98 PC must be using a logon name and a non-blank password for the XP connection to work.
- the XP PC must have that username/password in it's local users section.

Now that you have simple file sharing turned on, the above should be all you need to do - except the obvious of sharing something on the PC.

 

Mike,

Therein lies the problem! My XP box, under "Control panel | Properties | System Network identification" shows what one would ASSume to be correct:

Full computer name: RAS001
Workgroup: ZZZZZZZ

However! When I run the network diagnostic scan, under "Computer System ", this is what I get (snipped - see above for complete rundown):

Computer System RAS001

Domain = ZZZZZZZ
DomainRole = 0

Name = RAS001
NameFormat = (empty)
NetworkServerModeEnabled = TRUE

PartOfDomain = FALSE

Potential_Browser
Master_Browser

UserName = RAS001\Administrator

Workgroup = (empty)

This "diagnostic" clearly shows my (misbehavin') XP box to be not only a "NetworkServer ", but part of a DOMAIN and NOT part of a WORKGROUP!

SO! What is right and what is wrong? Since my '98 box sees my XP box as "unknown ", I'd have to go with the diagnostic's info. BUT, how do I rectify this? I'm considering doing (yet another) clean install of XP and subsequent reload of all app's, but obviously prefer not to!

Newt,

I'm only partially fixed at this point! I mistakenly said I'm in "simple sharing" mode, but it was only for an hour or so (somehow my registry got to where it needed permission all of a sudden), so I switched back ny unchecking the box.

Strange about the $IPC thing - my XP laptop can see AND access ALL boxes just fine. My '98 boxes can see and access all others EXCEPT my XP desktop, including the XP laptop, which gives NO $IPC message! Both XP boxes have usernames and passwords (although they are set to logon automatically), the '98 boxes have usernames, but never have had passwords and are set to logon automatically (tweakui).

I guess my $64,000 question is: Why can my '98 boxes "see" my XP laptop and NOT my XP desktop?

Thanks, gents!

Russ

 

Well, wish me luck! I'm doing a clean reinstall due to several (perceived) problems - hopefully it will "unflux" my networking, as well as printing problems. I'll get back to ya soon!

Russ

 

Russ

Don't do that yet!

Come on back!

Sorry didn't get back sooner. Been busy at work.

First I must have missed it but I don't think your computer is set up as a DC.

And it don't matter what the Domain/workgroup is called.

So leave the ZZZZZZZ on this one and change the 98 to the same and reboot. What matters most is that they match.

Did I catch you in time?

Mike

 

TooooooO Laaaaaate!

I've got it back up and running. The clean reinstall fixed my printer problems, but the networking is business as (UN)usual!

The '98 box has the same workgroup name ZZZZZZZ, as the other boxes (I'll leave out one of the '98 boxes for now). All have different "computer names ". In the '98 box, if you open the workgroup, ZZZZZZZ in network neighborhood, there are 3 computers listed:

Computer______Comment

PRESARIO______Compaq
RAS001________(unknown)
SCOTT_________Scott's computer

On my machine, RAS001, under "Control panel | Properties | System Network identification ", it shows "RAS001" for the computer name, "Russ's Computer" for a comment and "ZZZZZZZ" for a workgroup. All computers are configured in this way except for the computer names and comments. Somehow the information is not getting from my XP box to "SCOTT ". When "SCOTT" tries accessing RAS001, he gets the now INFAMOUS IPC$ password box, but if he accesses "PRESARIO" (an XP box), he connects with ease.

What's up with that?

Russ

 

Russ do this

Is there a passwoed on RAS001? If not give it one and reboot it.

On Scott (win98) go to start-logoff. It will ask if you are sure, say yes.

When it presents a new windows logon type in the name you type in on RAS001. If it is adiminstrator then put administrator. Then for password use the same password that you use on RAS001 exactly same case and all.

Now what?

Mike

 

Mike, I could SWEAR I've done this before, but this time it WORKED! Well, maybe the re-install DID fix something besides my printer. I'm still having trouble as to WHY the XP laptop is not having the same problem... but, hey WHO CARES!

Thanks much!

Russ