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IE7 - Security Nagging

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer & Microsoft Edge' started by edjer, 2006/11/15.

  1. 2006/11/15
    edjer

    edjer Inactive Thread Starter

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    I just installed IE7, and it won't let me get to my homepage without clicking the home button on the menu. It says "Your current security settings put your computer at risk." It also initiates a warning bar across the top of the page, every time I change pages.

    I set my security settings lower on purpose. The only options seem to be to let Internet Explorer automatically fix my settings, or put up with the constant warnings.

    Is there any way to permanently turn of this inane nagging?

    I like IE7, but Microsoft is protecting me to the point where I'm just going to make Opera my default browser and forget about IE.

    Ed
     
  2. 2006/11/15
    Welshjim

    Welshjim Inactive

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    edjer--The official word is that MS is trying to protect you!!
    http://groups.google.com/group/micr..._frm/thread/ded7ab70df5d8015/42eabb7346603bee
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/03/08/546708.aspx
    If you do not agree with being protected
    http://www.computing.net/windowsxp/wwwboard/forum/156509.html but it is not certain the fix works.
    The second link above says the messages can be turned off using Group Policy, but does not tell us how.
    Mavbe someone else can tell us.
    But, while I am not sure I like MS trying to protect people who do not want to be protected, what Security setting are you now using to view Internet sites, and what drawbacks do you experience by raising the Security slider one notch higher?
     

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  4. 2006/11/15
    edjer

    edjer Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks, Welshjim. I'll look into those.

    I have a custom setting, allowing java, scripts and the embedded stuff. I got tired of all the popups and warning bars, and didn't want to add everything to the trusted sites list.

    Mostly, it just bugs the living **** out of me that I don't have a choice. I thought it was my machine, not Microsoft's.

    I suppose I could raise the setting, and add sites to my trusted list, but it goes against my grain.

    Ed

    P.S. I realize I'm being anal.
     
  5. 2006/11/15
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    Bill Castner

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    I am curious if you disable the air bags on your cars as well.
     
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    Welshjim

    Welshjim Inactive

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    edjer--You can see that many people feel you should not underprotect IE. I can understand your reaction to losing some control over your PC, but
    Have you tried using one of the default settings?
     
  8. 2006/11/16
    edjer

    edjer Inactive Thread Starter

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    No, Bill, I don't disable my air bags.

    Thanks for all the help, everyone.

    I decided to stop being anal. I let them "fix" my settings and will see what happens.

    I still think there should be a relatively easy way to disable this feature, but I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face.

    I also think it's very strange that it is so easy to lower your settings, but extremely difficult to stop them from nagging you about it. Why don't they make the settings harder to change if they feel so strongly about safety?

    Ed
     
  9. 2006/12/31
    jasonkibby

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    Wow, what have we come to?

    Let me get this straight (I'm a new visitor to Windows BBS.)

    1) Microsoft releases great, yet insecure software

    2) Business and consumer community hammered by viruses and malware

    3) Microsoft releases new security features that inhibit normal use of their
    software, including a totally maddening yellow bar on every web page.

    4) Windows BBS users complain about the bar and want to remove it

    5) They are asked if they "disable their air bags too. "

    What kind of nanny state do you want to live in? I'm looking at that idiotic yellow bar right now on a brand new Dell laptop, and I hate it. I'm going to do whatever it takes to shut down every Microsoft security feature and go it alone with third party software.

    If Microsoft created the problem, I d*mn sure am NOT going to rely on Microsoft to provide the solution. So far, their solution has everything to do with restriction and virtually nothing to do with correcting the actual, fundamental problems at hand (despite what you've heard about the Holy Grail Windows Vista, complete with barbaric EULA.)

    I love Microsoft and God loves Bill Gates, but these popup messages, banners across the browser window and nanny cartoon balloons at the bottom of the screen ALL GREATLY REDUCE PRODUCTIVITY WITHOUT SOLVING PROBLEMS WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE MICROSOFT CREATED. PERIOD.

    So whatever scared-of-own-shadow sissy is asking about our airbags, here's my answer:

    You're effing right I'd disable the airbags on my vehicle if they punched me in the face every time I turned left or drove over the speed limit.

    You are just the kind of customer Microsoft wants, and the perfect example of why this industry is in full regression rather than moving forward in terms of security. Microsoft wants to solve the security issue on its own terms while companies other than Microsoft have kept America computing securely in the face of Microsoft's horribly flawed product line.

    And I'm a pro-Microsoft user, not a bomb shelter Linux conspiracy theorist searching for a "better way than Redmond." I like Redmond, I just wish its biggest corporate resident wasn't slowly morphing into a crappy, bureaucratic government agency.

    Thanks.
     
  10. 2007/01/01
    Bill Castner

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    The message comes from the Security Center applet, not IE 7.

    This message means you have either a non-working firewall, a non-working antivirus application, or both.

    I either of those cases is true, you should not be connected to the internet in my opinion. This is exactly like disconnecting your air bags. It is trivial to turn the nagging off, but it does have a valid purpose. A large source of malware is the unprotected user on the internet. This is a huge vector for distributing malware. As a netizen, I feel it is your responsibility to make sure you are not serving to unsuspecting others malware from your failure to have a working firewall and antivirus application in place on your machine.

    See the comments by the IE 7 Team: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/03/08/546708.aspx
     
    Last edited: 2007/01/01
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    Zander

    Zander Geek Member Alumni

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    :rolleyes:
    I have to laugh. It's said MS makes insecure software. They try to fix it so it is secure and people complain about that too. What would you have them do? Rip it all out so nothing worked? Or just get rid of the security features so you can continue to complain about their insecure software?
     
  12. 2007/01/22
    Carey

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    How to fix "Your current security settings put your computer at risk" message

    OK after all the talk about the annoying pop up that IE7 delivers saying "Your current security settings put your computer at risk. Click here to change your security settings" I think I've found out how to get rid of it...

    Go to Start - Run - gpedit.msc
    Navigate to User Configuration - Administrative Templates - Windows Components - Internet Explorer - Security Features - Information Bar. Change "All processes" to "Disable ".

    Then go to Start - Run - regedit
    Navigate to HKLM - Software - Microsoft - Internet Explorer - Advanced Options - Main. Change the "Security Risk Page" to whatever you want your home page to be.

    The disadvantage to doing this is that any time you want to change your homepage you have to repeat the regedit steps, but how often do you do that anyway?
     
  13. 2007/02/27
    stoicjester

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    Newbie Comment.

    I was looking for answers to the same issue, when I came across this BBS.
    The one item that caught my attention was the comment "I am curious if you disable the air bags on your cars as well. "
    Actually ... yes I do. Where I live it is mandated by law that you do so if a passenger is a child (defined further by age, height and weight). Hence why some manufacturers actually give you a means by which to do this without HACKING it off. There is no slight intended in this response ... I am only trying to point out that there actually may be a reason for doing something like this. It does not mean that the argument holds no value but rather that there are exceptions to a lot of things in life. Besides it is not a very good corollary to begin with.
    Further on the same member goes on to explain that this is a "civic" responsibility on everyone’s part: "As a netizen, I feel it is your responsibility to make sure you are not serving to unsuspecting others malware from your failure to have a working firewall and antivirus application in place on your machine.â€
    While I would agree with him that we should all be mindful of others when we take actions in an open community such as the internet, I do not believe that I or anyone should impose personal beliefs on others. This goes for Microsoft (I also wish to point out that I am a big fan of MS despite all the frustrations I have with their "implementationsâ€) forcing their concepts of security and net safety on their clients. If we are mindful of our own security and safety we will not have any need to depend on other’s actions to protect ourselves.
    All of this is to say that while I understand that his point of view as perfectly valid I believe that I should be given an option to use or not use the information bar and any other item within an MS application without being dictated to. Now, if I don’t like it, I guess I could always just dump Vista and IE7.
    Thanks for the HACKS though "¦ too bad we have to resort to this.
     
  14. 2007/03/23
    lokibjensen

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    For stoicjester and jasonkibby.

    To stoicjester and jasonkibby, AMEN. I'm MS Certified and always stand up for them, but you guys are absolutely correct with every single statement you made. After reading some of the posts I felt compelled to write a long reply, but now I don't. Nuff said.
     

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