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43MB Temporary Internet Files?

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer & Microsoft Edge' started by Phyl, 2003/09/02.

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  1. 2003/09/02
    Phyl

    Phyl Inactive Thread Starter

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    In Windows Explorer I check Temporary Internet files and "Status" shows 75 "Objects" My settings in IE show 763 MB
    However, I click on Properties and it tells me three things:
    1) Size = 34.1MB (35,855,213)
    2) Size on Disk = 43.0MB (45,150,208
    3) Contains = 30,740 Files in 19 Folders

    WHY???? If these are temporary files why do I need so many. I'd like the ability to keep or delete the ones I don't need!!
     
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    Hi Phyl!

    You don´t need so many but it´s very difficult / impossible to choose which ones to keep.

    These files are small components of the webpages that You´ve visited and the idea is to let IE get the brunt of the pages from the TIF folder instead of having to download everything again. However, if the size of the folder gets too large it actually is decreasing performance and the default size is too large.

    How large it should be is open to debate. Some people say 10 MB or less, others say approximately 50 MB.

    In IE, click Tools > Internet options > General > Temporary Internet Files > Settings > either move the slider or type Your chosen figure > click OK.

    If You want to, click Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > scroll down to Security > tick the option to clear the TIF folder on shut down.

    HTH,
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    I´ve got to ask:

    You posted in the Windows XP forum but what You descibe is not what it looks like in my TIF folder in XP.

    I have my size set to 64 MB (don´t ask me why this exact figure).

    The status field says 5801 objects

    Right-clicking the TIF folder and choosing properties reveals:
    Size: 46.0MB
    Size on Disk: 62.9MB
    Contents: 8862 files, 9 folders

    My conclusion is that in the root of my TIF folder are 5792 files and 9 folders, adding up to 5801 objects.
    In the 9 folders are 3070 files, adding up to a total of 8862 files.

    However, I can´t find these 9 subfolders and I have enabled viewing of hidden files and folders and viewing of hidden system files.

    ...... :confused: ......

    Can You confirm that You´re on WinXP!

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    Christer, Thanks for your input. I do have Windows XP. I have done all the things you mentioned and have even deleted the entire TIF file of all its contents. (Use Refresh) However, when I check on Properties I still get the oultandish amount of files, etc. If there is any thing else you might think of let me know, thanks.
     
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    Whatever OS your using Phyl. Delete (empty) your temp internet files , clear the history and delete cookies. Change the temp internet files cache down to 10 or 20 Mb and manually delete then on a regular basis. I do mine at least a couple times a week. The default size as determined by MS is something like 10% of the size of your HD. Ridiculous with the size of todays hard drives.
    When you next visit the site a file will be cached again. The advantage (insignificant IMHO) is a fraction speed increase when you again visit the site. Deleting cookies (highly recommended) will mean you will have to enter passwords and usernames such as for using this BBS as an example. Not a problem for me as I am not comfortable with caching passwords and usernames at any time. Not even for WindowsBBS ;)
     
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    And another thing that may (or may not) have a bearing. Clear the contents (that are allowed) of the C:\Temp (if you have it, probably not?), the Windows\Temp folder and the C:\Documents and Settings\login\Local Settings\Temp folder. The History and Temp internet files folders in Documents and settings should be empty after the before mentioned purge? Check these folders under other login names as well.
     
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    When you deleted the files did you choose to also delete offline content? If not, do so.
     
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    Hello Phyl,

    Have you ticked the check box in internet options > advanced tab > under security "empty temporary internet file folders when browser is closed "?

    The rest of the content of that folder are the cookie shortcuts which is as much as the cookie folder contents.

    What counts is the volume of that folder when off line. You say there is a large file count, whats in that folder when off line?

    Regards - Charles
     
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    I use DelTemp
    http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/apps/deltemp/deltemp.exe
    It does not delete cookies (which you can do selectively for yourself, and which I prefer).
    It does require that you have Windows Script Host running.
    I think a Readme file comes with DelTemp.
     
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    Christer--
    I have no idea whether this applies to WinXP, but in Win98/IE6 under C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files is the Content.IE5 folder, and under it are folders in multiple of four depending on how many files are in there (and how long since you cleaned your cache:D ).
     
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    I have done a little research into the innards of my computer, trying to find the elusive 9 folders that the properties for my TIF-folder claim that I have.

    I cleared all TIFs including Offline-stuff, all Cookies and the History. Next I defragged (Norton SpeedDisk), knowing that the TIF-folder will fragment quickly.

    When done, I started IE and went to the websites that I normally visit, re-logging in and so on.
    After this session the properties for my TIF-folder showed a number of files and 9 folders.

    The 9 folders didn´t appear when viewing the TIF-folder in Windows Explorer.

    Next I consulted Norton SpeedDisk - "analyse" and the inherent WinXP defragger - "analyse ". They both showed a number of fragmented files in 8 folders.
    They all have the path C:\Documents and Settings\ "My Name "\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\???????? where ???????? is 8 different combinations of letters and digits.

    If I count "Content.IE5 ", then I have found my 9 folders but why don´t they show in WE?

    There are more than one TIF-folder. There´s one for each User Name, one each for Administrator, Default User, LocalService and NetworkService but not for All Users.
    In addition to these, there´s one in C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\Local Settings.

    On my computer, with only one User Name, that adds up to 6 TIF-folders in different locations. All but one have a subfolder "Content.IE5" which in turn has sub-folders named "???????? ".
    The exception is the one for "My Name ", the only User Account.

    Comparing "analyse" results with what shows in WE;

    4 of the ???????? folders are unique for My Name,
    4 of the ???????? folders appear for Administrator, Default User and the Windows-path too.

    Each ???????? folder for LocalService (2) and NetworkService (4) is unique.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, put on Your thinking-caps and figure this out. My wee brain is all hot and mushy by now.

    Why doesn´t the path C:\Documents and Settings\ "My Name "\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\???????? show in WE when it and all 8 subfolders obviously are there (according to "analyse" results).

    Christer
     
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    Christer

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    I´ve done further research and found this MS Knowledge Base article:

    Temporary Internet Files Use More Disk Space Than Specified

    I carried out the steps according to the article and found:

    You don´t have to delete the old TIF folder, it´s gone when the location is moved where a new TIF folder is created.

    I did it on a computer which connects to the Internet on very rare occasions. After clearing TIFs including Off-line stuff, Cookies and History, it´s properties were reported as:

    Size: 848 kB (868 486 byte)
    Size on disk: 856 kB (876 544 byte)
    Contents: 3 files, 1 folders
    Statusfield: 0 objects

    Next, I moved it to a different location, it´s properties were reported as:

    Size: 32.3 kB (33 170 byte)
    Size on disk: 56.0 kB (57 344 byte)
    Contents: 7 files, 5 folders
    Status field: 0 objects

    After clearing as above:

    Size: 32.1 kB (32 902 byte)
    Size on disk: 40.0 kB (40 960 byte)
    Contents: 3 files, 1 folders
    Status field: 0 objects

    Finally I moved it back to the original location and repeated the above with the exactly same results.

    Please, take note that I´m on Windows XP Pro. It could be different on another OS.

    Christer
     
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