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Old 16th November 2003   #1
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Logitech Wireless Mouse install???

Either I'm very stupid or the program writers at Logitech are.

The install directions for their cordless mouse tell you to plug it in with the computer turned off, start the computer, install the software, turn on the wireless dongle and away you go.

Well, when you start the computer, you have no mouse, cursor on screen, but you can't move it.

The autorun starts the install program which you can work through using the keyboard arrows and the enter key. That is until you come to the "I accept the terms of this agreement" radio button which cannot be accessed using the keyboard. At least, not with any combination of keystrokes I can conjure up.

Of course, the mouse is still inoperable at that time because the software cannot be installed without clicking the "I accept" radio button with the mouse which can't be done because the mouse is still inoperable because the software is not installed............Catch 22

Somebody got some experience with this???

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Was your old mouse attached when you started the computer? It should have been.
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Hey Jdover, thanks for the comeback on this.

Logitech instructions do not mention leave old mouse, just says plug in new mouse. Can have two mice on one machine?

Old mouse attached is MSFT Optical to PS2 Port. New mouse goes on PS 2 Port. Only one PS 2 Port on this machine.

Both Mice are optional USB with dongle.

Do not want to have mouse on USB port, needed for other devices.

Could install software with MSFT on PS 2 with Logitech on USB then switch Logitech to PS 2?

Or better choice, switch MSFT mouse to USB port, install software with Logitech mouse attached to PS 2?


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Ideally you only use the old mouse until the Logitech software is installed and you have rebooted but you can have more than one mouse installed. Icidentally are you using Mouseware 9.78? That's the latest version obtainable from the web site of course.

My Dell Inspiron has a touchpad alway active (I regret) as well as my Logitech trackball. Sometimes at a different location I use another trackball.

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Hi again JohnD.

Seems I remember a post not too long ago about OK to have two mice. I'll try msft mouse switch to USB, plug Logitech to PS2, install software, unplug MSFT. Hope for the best.

Would have been nice for Logitech to include this in their install guide.

Will post back with results. Going to check drivers for 9.78 get from site, shut down and do the MSFT mouse switch now.

Thanks for your help.

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Got it!

You solved my problem for which I am very thankful.

Logitech and I can share the "stupid" label. Them for not instructing to leave existing mouse, me for not figuring it out on my own. Especially after reading previous post that said 2 mice ok.

Did this: Switched MSFT mouse to USB port, plugged Logitech into PS2 port, used MSFT mouse to install Logitech software. (latest update) Software installed successfully. Logitech mouse & MSFT mouse both work.

Unplugged MSFT mouse from USB port to free up for other device.

Done!

One downside, new mouse does not have side buttons for back and forward. Set middle wheel for back, lose auto scroll.

Just can't have everything.

Thanks again.

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AH yes Dear old Mouse problems.

Yes you can have more than one ( as you found ) but I have had three. USB, Serial and PS2. One of them has to work at all times. And more than likely it will be the Serial one.

As a suggestion. Do not keep your main mouse as USB. Keep it as either Serial or PS2. And make it the most usefull one.

This kind of a problem is EXACTLY why I still have and ancient but still very usefull Serial Port Mouse hanging around.

One of my machines does not have a PS2 port and USB does not work in DOS or Safe Mode.

They may be old and supposedly useless but Serial Port devices have bail my sorry backside out of trouble more than once.

BTW. I understand from other posts that if you have a 2.4 meg/gig cycle cordless phone it can interfer with cordless devices.

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Hey BillyBob: Thanks for the additional info. Another caveat: if you have an optical mouse, it may not work if you boot to other than the OS. No drivers loaded?? I keep an old trackball mouse around for just that problem.

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Hey BillyBob: Thanks for the additional info. Another caveat: if you have an optical mouse, it may not work if you boot to other than the OS
Hey martinr121. Thank you for the added info.

I only have XP Pro on here so just for the giggles of it I booted to my 98 Startup CD.

My main Mouse is a Microsoft 5 button Optical PS2. It did work in DOS. I thought it did but I had to check to make sure.

But. It could very well depend on the device itself.

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Another couple of points. I also bought a Logitech Cordless Trackman Optical which has 7 buttons but the wheel is operated by one's middle finger which isn't nearly as articulated as one's thumb so it's a right pain. I'm abput to give it to a charity shop.

Also, if you get conflicts when using your trackball via the USB port, get a USB > PS2 port adapter and that will solve it.

I think I've had to learn as much about mice as most cats.

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Some devices will go from being USB to PS2 and work. Others won't.

What I think ( and have learned from experience ) is that it is better not but your main pointing device on USB in the first place. Then you will have it ( most of the time ) no matter which OS you go to.

And I found that with a Dual Boot System the PS2 is much more reliable.

As I have said before. I think that the keyboard and mouse do not belong on USB.

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That's what it's all about, livin' & leanin', even for the cats.

Thanks to all, never thought such a simple subject would generate so much input/output. Not so simple after all.


PS: This cordless mouse not that much of improvement if any.
Miss the side buttons. On sale at WalMart, I was there, it was there, now it is here. Darn that credit card.

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I have an ancient serial port trackball that seems to work on ANY computer, so I keep it handy when I'm fixing someone else's system. I use a Logitech optical trackball with the usb converter to PS2 as was mentioned in a previous post. I never install the software that came with it- I let XP find the drivers for it automatically, and it works fine. You can adjust the settings from Control Panel, Mouse (input devices). I thought I would miss the scroll wheels at first, but now I'm used to it. Optical sure beats periodically cleaning the crud out of the trackball!

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Hi Johanna, nice to make your aquaintance, always read your posts with great interest:

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You have my vote on that one. What a pain that is. Put optical on each of family's 3 computers for that very reason. Worth every penny. Many times I thought I had a computer problem that turned out to be dirt on the trackball. Took a while before the problem was quickly recognizeable when I was a newbie. (still a newbie in most ways ) Optical mouse should come with every new machine.

I've been meaning to ask, I have been following other member's lead on posting quotes with the underscore, but wondering, why the members don't do this:

You Said: "Optical sure...................."
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Don't want to try and change anything that is tried and true by experience, just curious. Just seems like extra work to use the underscore ( I'm all for avoiding work. as I have been placing the lines manually. Is there a shortcut to place a line over and under that I'm not aware of?? A BB rule? Some kind of protocol or tradition? Will I be offending anyone by using quote marks??

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