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Old 23rd May 2008   #1
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SeaMonkey Zip install will not play embedded audio file

I'm not sure this is the place to post this but, you folks are going back and forth about ZIP vs INSTALL and I have an interesting phenomenon I been wanting to bring up that goes like this:................

When Seamonkey 1.1.7 came along I started using the ZIP version. However, it never would load the home page of my own web site at www.raysmyth.net without hanging up and going into a "Not Responding Mode".

I didn't have any similar problems with other web sites and never worried with the situation too much because I have Firefox and IE on my computer and I just used one of them when I wanted to go to my own home page.

AND I been figuring the reason for the hang up was some sound coding I put in to play a little music when the page loads.

The coding in the page was and is as follows.

<!-- Begin Sound -->
<object data="ray-main.mp3" type="application/x-mplayer2" width="0" height="0">
<param name="src" value="ray-main.mp3">
<param name="autostart" value="1">
<param name="playcount" value="1">
</object>
<!-- End Sound -->

Then Seamonkey version 1.1.9 came along and I again used the ZIP version and Wam-O same thing, the SM-1.1.9 ZIP Version also hangs up on my Home page.

Then one day awhile back I had to reformat drive C and install my Ghost backup which still had an old version of Seamonkey on it.

In my haste to get back in operation I forgot I was using the ZIP versions of Seamonkey and installed the INSTALL version of SM 1.1.9 and low and behold it would load and play the music on my web site just like Firefox and IE did.

Yesterday, I decided to try the ZIP version of 1.1.9 again and sure nuff it hangs up on my home page.

SOooooooo, the phenomenon is, Seamonkeys ZIP versions hangs up on the home page of my web site at www.raysmyth.net and the INSTALL version does not.

It's no big deal with me and I am now using the 1.1.9 INSTALL Version without problems.

But, I thought I would throw this into the pot for stirring and comments.

By The Way, Other then the fact the ZIP version doesn't get into the registry is there any other pro or cons between which one is best to use.

Ray

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I don't have a direct comparison, but I have a Seamonkey2.0 nightly from a .zip file. No problem with the site. But, I wonder if the installed programs had the same plugins as the unzipped one. I, routinely, copy the entire plugins folder of one program, and paste it in the unzipped folder.
In other words, do you have a Windows Media Player plugin in the unzipped program?


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Ray,

I have no problem with your audio file playing, when using SM 1.1.9. I think that your code may be the problem. Mozilla browsers will use whatever plugin is enabled for MP3 files; however, IE will either use Quicktime or Windows Media Player ActiveX control, depending on the page coding. I'm assuming that you do have WMPlayer, and QuickTime installed.

Since you have coded for WMPlayer, try this code:

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<!-- For Internet Explorer * Windows Media Player -->
     <object classid="CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11D3-B153-00C04F79FAA6"
       type="application/x-oleobject" width="0" height="0"
    codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,5,715"
          standby="Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components...">
        <param name="url" value="ray-main.mp3">
        <param name="autostart" value="true">
        <param name="ShowStatusBar" value="true">
        <param name="volume" value="100">
        <!-- For other browsers * default player -->
        <!--[if !IE]> <-->
        <object data="ray-main.mp3" type="audio/mpeg" height="0" width="0">
       <param name="autostart" value="true">
     </object>
     <!--> <![endif]-->
    </object>

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I, routinely, copy the entire plugins folder of one program, and paste it in the unzipped folder.
In other words, do you have a Windows Media Player plugin in the unzipped program?
Westside, to answer your question - I will confess I never pay much attention to the plugin folder until something is broke.

However, I did go check and both the INSTALL and ZIP version of SM 1.1.9 have only one file in the Plugin folder which is the same for both and that file can be seen here:... http://www.raysmyth.net/test-001.jpg

More on this when I reply to Ramona's post.

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Ray,

I have no problem with your audio file playing, when using SM 1.1.9. I think that your code may be the problem. Mozilla browsers will use whatever plugin is enabled for MP3 files; however, IE will either use Quicktime or Windows the Media Player ActiveX control, depending on the page coding. I'm assuming that you do have WMPlayer, and QuickTime installed.

Since you have coded for WMPlayer, try this code:

Code:
<!-- For Internet Explorer * Windows Media Player -->
     <object classid="CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11D3-B153-00C04F79FAA6"
       type="application/x-oleobject" width="0" height="0"
    codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,5,715"
          standby="Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components...">
        <param name="url" value="ray-main.mp3">
        <param name="autostart" value="true">
        <param name="ShowStatusBar" value="true">
        <param name="volume" value="100">
        <!-- For other browsers * default player -->
        <!--[if !IE]> <-->
        <object data="ray-main.mp3" type="audio/mpeg" height="0" width="0">
       <param name="autostart" value="true">
     </object>
     <!--> <![endif]-->
    </object>
Ramona, Hope this comes out so you can understnad it.

You assumed correctly that I do have both Media Player and Quicktime installed.

I tried your code and the only browser that would play your code was IE.

Neither Firefox - Mozilla - Seamonkey or Netscape 7.02 would play the code.

However, Firefox (only one to do so) told be I needed to install Quicktime. Well I didn't understand that because seems like it was only a few months ago that I updated Quicktime. However, I took a quick look and the version I had was older then the one to install so I installed the newer version 7.4.5 of Quicktime and Bingo.

Firefox - Mozilla - Seamonkey and Netscape 7.02 will all now play the code you provided as well as continue to play the code I was using.

The Plugin folder of Seamonkey now looks like what is shown here:...
http://www.raysmyth.net/test-002.jpg

IE also plays both my code and your code same as it always did.

Now an interesting quirk of all this is that I decided to unzip SM 1.1.9 right on the Drive D hard drive where I keep my downloaded programs stowed.

The unzipped version with only the one file in the plugin folder as shown here:... http://www.raysmyth.net/test-001.jpg will now play both version of the code. Apparently, the gremlins have took control of my computer.

It is a mystery to me why the ZIP version on Drive D now works with my home page and does so with only one file in the plugin folder and it is the same ZIP copy I installed the other day on Drive C.

That being said, Everything works and I can live with how things are.

For what it's worth, my Firefox - Mozilla and Netscape Plugin folders have gobs of files in them.

Thanks for the help, Ray

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Westside, to answer your question - I will confess I never pay much attention to the plugin folder until something is broke.

However, I did go check and both the INSTALL and ZIP version of SM 1.1.9 have only one file in the Plugin folder which is the same for both and that file can be seen here:... http://www.raysmyth.net/test-001.jpg

More on this when I reply to Ramona's post.

Ray
Ray,
a new install or zip version come with only one file. That's why I copy the plugins folder from another, similar, program. I learned this when I was tested AOL Gecko (an AOL based on Netscape). No one seemed to know how to make it work, other than reinstalling the programs, which would, then, place the .dll filed in the plugins folder. I tried the copy/paste, and never had a problem.

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