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Old 9th April 2009   #1
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PocoMail 4.8 and Time & Chaos address book

Will the new PocoMail 4.8 work with the Time & Chaos (TC) 6.0 and 7.X address book as Courier does now? TC allows you to seamlessly port your address book contacts to your smart phone and shared contacts online through a (hosted) web interface to select people outside your organization. http://www.chaossoftware.com/chaos.asp

Also, TC is a full blown PIM solution and supports several address book exports, include XML, so your address book doesn't get stuck on some propriety solution.

I've been using Courier with Time & Chaos for several years. With this combination, I've enjoyed the best of both a great e-mail client and a connected address book I can share between by portable, smart devices and the web. I'm not giving that flexibility up.

I checked the PocoMail 4.8 manual, but it doesn't mention TC. If PocoMail doesn't support the TC address book today, will it in the near future? If so, it's worth my wait. If not, I may move to Chaos Intellect instead for my e-mail and PIM/address book needs. But I'm really hoping PocoMail and TC will work together (just as Courier does).

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Will the new PocoMail 4.8 work with the Time & Chaos (TC) 6.0 and 7.X address book as Courier does now? TC allows you to seamlessly port your address book contacts to your smart phone and shared contacts online through a (hosted) web interface to select people outside your organization. http://www.chaossoftware.com/chaos.asp

Also, TC is a full blown PIM solution and supports several address book exports, include XML, so your address book doesn't get stuck on some propriety solution.

I've been using Courier with Time & Chaos for several years. With this combination, I've enjoyed the best of both a great e-mail client and a connected address book I can share between by portable, smart devices and the web. I'm not giving that flexibility up.

I checked the PocoMail 4.8 manual, but it doesn't mention TC. If PocoMail doesn't support the TC address book today, will it in the near future? If so, it's worth my wait. If not, I may move to Chaos Intellect instead for my e-mail and PIM/address book needs. But I'm really hoping PocoMail and TC will work together (just as Courier does).
On your basic question, no, it does not. However, we are conducting a poll on the Yahoo site to garner a perception on how many people use Courier and T&C. We can convert the addressbook and may have a feature to invoke the Pocomail email editor from within T&C, but I can't confirm yet. However, the full integration that would require no change of any kind to your use of T&C is not in PocoMail 4.8. Thanks for asking,
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... no, [PocoMail] does not [operate directly with Courier now].... We can convert the address book and may have a feature to invoke the Pocomail email editor from within T&C, but I can't confirm yet.
For such a conversion to be useful, it needs to be two way. Understand new address entries can appear in either the e-mail client or T&C over time, so both need to move new entries across to the other or share the same database.

I also talked to T&C support once about the interface to their address database. Apparently, it does have some sort of API, so adding a read/write DLL between PocoMail and T&C (as Courier has) wouldn't be that difficult. Have you considered it? Perhaps you could contract T&C to write a DLL for interfacing to PocoMail (like Courier does). Perhaps you could use Courier's existing DLL for T&C as starting material for the PocoMail DLL.

A fancier approach would be to add an ODBC/SQL channel to the PocoMail address book, but I think this would require more work. The advantage to that approach, however, is that you could now keep your address book on MS Excel, MS Access, FileMaker Pro, MySQL, or whatever.

Some of these SQL databases can read vCard, iCard, and hCard formats, so this would be an easy way to bring address data off the Internet (or web server) and into an address book PocoMail could use (in real-time).

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... we are conducting a poll on the Yahoo site to garner a perception on how many people use Courier and T&C.
You're failing to count the future new users that want their e-mail and address book entries shared on their smart phones. If you count these, T&C may be willing to write a DLL for PocoMail for you just because it would bring many more smart phone customers (with deep pockets) to their T&C product (and your PocoMail product). Have you considered a partnership?

The point is you want to Internet enable PocoMail while minimizing development cost. This integration is a force multiplying factor that will bring new, deep-pocket, business customers to both PocoMail and T&C. (We can discuss more about this in e-mail if you like.)

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I appreciate your comments regarding T&C. We had discussed this at length when defining what features for the initial release. It's always a choice of immediate features vs future opportunities. I have shared your full post with our development team to consider for a future addition. Your post was very thorough and I really appreciated it. Thanks,
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